85 Volvo 740 GLE (non-turbo) - Tough Starting With Tank Not Full

Discussion in 'Volvo 740' started by MR, Oct 6, 2003.

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    MR Guest

    To All,

    I have a 1985 Volvo 740 GLE (non-turbo) 4-Door sedan that is having a
    difficult time starting when the gas tank is not full. When it is
    full, it will start on the 1st turn of the key. When not full, it
    usually starts after the 3rd or 4th attempt. We have also noticed a
    steep decline in gas mileage.

    Any ideas or links to FAQs would be greatly appreciated.

    Best Regards,

    MR
    Fargo, ND
     
    MR, Oct 6, 2003
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    Peter Milnes Guest

    Have you checked the in-tank fuel pump internal piping which develops a split
    which sucks air when tank not full? Also check the pump itself and the fuse
    that feeds it (there are two fuses one for each pump).

    Cheers, Peter.

    : To All,
    :
    : I have a 1985 Volvo 740 GLE (non-turbo) 4-Door sedan that is having a
    : difficult time starting when the gas tank is not full. When it is
    : full, it will start on the 1st turn of the key. When not full, it
    : usually starts after the 3rd or 4th attempt. We have also noticed a
    : steep decline in gas mileage.
    :
    : Any ideas or links to FAQs would be greatly appreciated.
    :
    : Best Regards,
    :
    : MR
    : Fargo, ND
     
    Peter Milnes, Oct 7, 2003
    #2
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    Bill Guest

    Doesn't affect me yet, but definately one to be remembered! Last thing I'd
    of thought of, a split tube.

    Bill
     
    Bill, Oct 7, 2003
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    MR Guest

    Peter,

    thanks for responding. Now pardon my ignorance, but where is the
    in-tank fuel pump located? What do you mean exactly by the internal
    piping developing a split? Next, how does one check the operation of
    a fuel pump? Is the fuse that feeds it local, or is it in the fuse
    panel?

    I appreciate your help.

    Regards,

    MR
     
    MR, Oct 8, 2003
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    jdunville Guest

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    Peter Milnes Guest

    Fuse 1 (25Amp) feeds both pumps via fuel pump relay and Fuse 11 (15Amp) feeds
    the in-tank pump. Both Fuses are at opposite ends of the second row of fuses in
    the fuse panel (behind ashtray). If you lift the carpet from the boot (trunk)
    floor between the wheel arches you will find a square black panel with four
    screws. Removal of this panel will allow access to the top of the fuel tank
    where you will find a circular removable lid with wires going through it.
    Removal of the retaining ring will allow you to withdraw the in-tank pump with
    the float mechanism for the fuel gauge. You will then be able to ascertain the
    condition of the piping and "sock" and be able to determine if the pump runs as
    it should. The main pump should take 6.5 Amps when running and the in-tank pump
    should take 1.6 Amps when running. A simple way of checking the current for the
    in-tank pump is to remove the Fuse 11 and place your current meter across the
    fuse holder ends.

    Hope that will help you MR, from Peter.


    <MR> wrote in message : Peter,
    :
    : thanks for responding. Now pardon my ignorance, but where is the
    : in-tank fuel pump located? What do you mean exactly by the internal
    : piping developing a split? Next, how does one check the operation of
    : a fuel pump? Is the fuse that feeds it local, or is it in the fuse
    : panel?
    :
    : I appreciate your help.
    :
    : Regards,
    :
    : MR
    :
    <snipped>
     
    Peter Milnes, Oct 9, 2003
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    Mike F Guest

    And don't try to take that unit out unless the tank is less than half
    full.
     
    Mike F, Oct 9, 2003
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