Volvo 850 - turns will not start

Discussion in 'Volvo 850' started by Aawara Chowdhury, Feb 24, 2006.

  1. As of this morning, my car will turn, but not catch ignition. It
    worked fine last evening. I did check and saw that it was getting
    fuel. I suspect the distributor cap or rotor. Is this a common
    problem, and can it fail so suddenly?

    Thanks,
    AC
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    Aawara Chowdhury, Feb 24, 2006
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  2. In <jfMLf.57265$>,
    Aawara Chowdhury <> wrote:

    >
    > As of this morning, my car will turn, but not catch ignition. It
    > worked fine last evening. I did check and saw that it was getting
    > fuel. I suspect the distributor cap or rotor. Is this a common
    > problem, and can it fail so suddenly?
    >
    > Thanks,
    > AC


    P.S. Its raining cats & dogs right now, and so I don't want to have
    the hood popped up to pull the dist. cap off, but I'm planning on
    doing it tomorrow morning.

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    Aawara Chowdhury, Feb 24, 2006
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  3. Aawara Chowdhury

    jg Guest

    "Aawara Chowdhury" <> wrote in message
    news:jfMLf.57265$...
    >
    > As of this morning, my car will turn, but not catch ignition. It
    > worked fine last evening. I did check and saw that it was getting
    > fuel. I suspect the distributor cap or rotor. Is this a common
    > problem, and can it fail so suddenly?
    >

    Probably happens to every car ever built, sometime or other. The mechanics
    always pull a lead off a plug or better, remove a plug and see if a spark
    will jump a short distance either to the plug or block. It's easier when
    it's dark and only experience tells if the spark is strong enough - I'm
    terrifed of getting booted and not very good at judging but that's the way
    to check the spark. Then work back if there is no spark...
     
    jg, Feb 25, 2006
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  4. "Aawara Chowdhury" <> wrote in message
    news:jfMLf.57265$...
    >
    > As of this morning, my car will turn, but not catch ignition. It
    > worked fine last evening. I did check and saw that it was getting
    > fuel. I suspect the distributor cap or rotor. Is this a common
    > problem, and can it fail so suddenly?
    >


    Last night? How long did it run last night? If less than 2 mins, then its
    flooded. The white blocks love to do it when started up / shut down without
    warm up.

    Pull fuel pump fuse. Crank for around 30 seconds throttle wide open or until
    it splutters. Replace fuse. With throttle wide open again (dont pump it)
    crank again in a continuous burst.

    If no sign of starting, you'll have to pull the plugs clean and dry them and
    try again.

    Tim..
     
    Tim \(remove obvious\), Feb 25, 2006
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  5. Aawara Chowdhury

    JDG Guest

    It could also be your Ignition Coil is bad if no spark. Mine died in the
    rain on 94 850 turbo.
     
    JDG, Feb 25, 2006
    #5
  6. Moisture inside the distributor cap? I've had that problem with my 850.
    Just pull the cap from its mount, wipe dry everything inside, quick
    dose of WD40, reassemble.
     
    Stuart Cormie, Feb 27, 2006
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  7. Aawara Chowdhury

    Mike Mayer Guest

    I had this happen twice on my 1993 850, for different reasons.

    1. I had run the car just long enough on a Saturday,to pull it in the
    garage after washing it. Monday morning, it would not start. Had it towed
    to Volvo shop, where they pulled the plugs, which were soaked with gasoline.
    Problem: Engine flooded itself. Is a known problem when you only run it
    for several seconds then let it sit. Next time you drive it, then it won't
    start (or will be very difficult to start). Mechanic recommended that I let
    the engine run for a few minutes at a minimum, not just several seconds.
    Have followed that advice, have not run into the problem since.

    2. There is a smaller diameter red wire running down from the + side of the
    battery. This wire is for the ignition (the big fat one is for the
    starter). On my car, it died because the wire had chafed up against the
    battery tray over the years, letting small amounts of gunk, water, and
    residual battery acid leak into the wire core, past the insulation. Over
    the years, the copper corroded away and finally, an open circuit. Thus no
    juice to the ignition = dead car. Had car towed. Volvo shop re-spliced and
    re-insulated the wire, all was fine.

    Mike

    "Aawara Chowdhury" <> wrote in message
    news:jfMLf.57265$...
    >
    > As of this morning, my car will turn, but not catch ignition. It
    > worked fine last evening. I did check and saw that it was getting
    > fuel. I suspect the distributor cap or rotor. Is this a common
    > problem, and can it fail so suddenly?
    >
    > Thanks,
    > AC
    > --
    > Email: echo 142322093203359315271794620168064975321554275890186P | dc
     
    Mike Mayer, Feb 27, 2006
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  8. In <1fLMf.4523$>,
    Mike Mayer <> wrote:

    > I had this happen twice on my 1993 850, for different reasons.
    >
    > 1. I had run the car just long enough on a Saturday,to pull it in the
    > garage after washing it. Monday morning, it would not start. Had it towed
    > to Volvo shop, where they pulled the plugs, which were soaked with gasoline.
    > Problem: Engine flooded itself. Is a known problem when you only run it
    > for several seconds then let it sit. Next time you drive it, then it won't
    > start (or will be very difficult to start). Mechanic recommended that I let
    > the engine run for a few minutes at a minimum, not just several seconds.
    > Have followed that advice, have not run into the problem since.


    I finally got around to looking at the car on Monday, dried the plugs (they
    were soaked). Car wouldn't start, and there was no compression. I didn't
    know what to do, but a buddy of mine suggested that maybe the flooding was
    so bad that it soaked past the seals.

    So I put oil in the cylinders, let it sit overnight - spent the day at
    Mardi Gras yesterday, and checked compression this morning. It was okay
    (between 150 - 158). Started it up, and it started fine, blew black
    smoke for about 5 minutes (burning up the oil, I guess), and then was
    just fine.

    Moral of the story - I'm never going to turn the engine on for just 15
    seconds to move the car five feet again.

    While I was at it, I did change the plugs - I put in Bosch Platinum2. I
    hadn't changed the plugs in about 15000 miles, so it was due.

    AC
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    Aawara Chowdhury, Mar 1, 2006
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  9. Aawara Chowdhury

    Mike Mayer Guest

    Excellent! Good work. Glad it started.

    Mike

    "Aawara Chowdhury" <> wrote in message
    news:mvkNf.10357$...
    > In <1fLMf.4523$>,
    > Mike Mayer <> wrote:
    >
    >> I had this happen twice on my 1993 850, for different reasons.
    >>
    >> 1. I had run the car just long enough on a Saturday,to pull it in the
    >> garage after washing it. Monday morning, it would not start. Had it
    >> towed
    >> to Volvo shop, where they pulled the plugs, which were soaked with
    >> gasoline.
    >> Problem: Engine flooded itself. Is a known problem when you only run it
    >> for several seconds then let it sit. Next time you drive it, then it
    >> won't
    >> start (or will be very difficult to start). Mechanic recommended that I
    >> let
    >> the engine run for a few minutes at a minimum, not just several seconds.
    >> Have followed that advice, have not run into the problem since.

    >
    > I finally got around to looking at the car on Monday, dried the plugs
    > (they
    > were soaked). Car wouldn't start, and there was no compression. I didn't
    > know what to do, but a buddy of mine suggested that maybe the flooding was
    > so bad that it soaked past the seals.
    >
    > So I put oil in the cylinders, let it sit overnight - spent the day at
    > Mardi Gras yesterday, and checked compression this morning. It was okay
    > (between 150 - 158). Started it up, and it started fine, blew black
    > smoke for about 5 minutes (burning up the oil, I guess), and then was
    > just fine.
    >
    > Moral of the story - I'm never going to turn the engine on for just 15
    > seconds to move the car five feet again.
    >
    > While I was at it, I did change the plugs - I put in Bosch Platinum2. I
    > hadn't changed the plugs in about 15000 miles, so it was due.
    >
    > AC
    > --
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    Mike Mayer, Mar 3, 2006
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  10. We have a product here for hard to start motors its called "start ya bastard
    " an ether based product .My wife was disgusted they should sell such a
    product :)

    "Mike Mayer" <> wrote in message
    news:HQMNf.5918$...
    > Excellent! Good work. Glad it started.
    >
    > Mike
    >
    > "Aawara Chowdhury" <> wrote in message
    > news:mvkNf.10357$...
    >> In <1fLMf.4523$>,
    >> Mike Mayer <> wrote:
    >>
    >>> I had this happen twice on my 1993 850, for different reasons.
    >>>
    >>> 1. I had run the car just long enough on a Saturday,to pull it in the
    >>> garage after washing it. Monday morning, it would not start. Had it
    >>> towed
    >>> to Volvo shop, where they pulled the plugs, which were soaked with
    >>> gasoline.
    >>> Problem: Engine flooded itself. Is a known problem when you only run
    >>> it
    >>> for several seconds then let it sit. Next time you drive it, then it
    >>> won't
    >>> start (or will be very difficult to start). Mechanic recommended that I
    >>> let
    >>> the engine run for a few minutes at a minimum, not just several seconds.
    >>> Have followed that advice, have not run into the problem since.

    >>
    >> I finally got around to looking at the car on Monday, dried the plugs
    >> (they
    >> were soaked). Car wouldn't start, and there was no compression. I
    >> didn't
    >> know what to do, but a buddy of mine suggested that maybe the flooding
    >> was
    >> so bad that it soaked past the seals.
    >>
    >> So I put oil in the cylinders, let it sit overnight - spent the day at
    >> Mardi Gras yesterday, and checked compression this morning. It was okay
    >> (between 150 - 158). Started it up, and it started fine, blew black
    >> smoke for about 5 minutes (burning up the oil, I guess), and then was
    >> just fine.
    >>
    >> Moral of the story - I'm never going to turn the engine on for just 15
    >> seconds to move the car five feet again.
    >>
    >> While I was at it, I did change the plugs - I put in Bosch Platinum2. I
    >> hadn't changed the plugs in about 15000 miles, so it was due.
    >>
    >> AC
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    >
    >
     
    John Robertson, Mar 12, 2006
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  11. Aawara Chowdhury

    Greg Guest

    I just suffered through this with my 94 850 20V...I replaced the plugs
    and let the cylinders air out for a couple of hours...I did a
    compression test and found it varied AS low as 70 psi. I suspect hat
    the build up of carbon in the cylinder from lots of inner city
    commuting was the prblem...I have taken it out for a good hot run and
    it starts great (first turn of the key). I just got this car but I
    would be shocked if I have to change plugs every 15k miles...then again
    I do a lot of highway miles where the engine gets hot and less chance
    for carbon build up.
     
    Greg, Mar 13, 2006
    #11
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