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Aawara Chowdhury
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      24-02-2006

As of this morning, my car will turn, but not catch ignition. It
worked fine last evening. I did check and saw that it was getting
fuel. I suspect the distributor cap or rotor. Is this a common
problem, and can it fail so suddenly?

Thanks,
AC
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Aawara Chowdhury
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      24-02-2006
In <jfMLf.57265$(E-Mail Removed)>,
Aawara Chowdhury <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>
> As of this morning, my car will turn, but not catch ignition. It
> worked fine last evening. I did check and saw that it was getting
> fuel. I suspect the distributor cap or rotor. Is this a common
> problem, and can it fail so suddenly?
>
> Thanks,
> AC


P.S. Its raining cats & dogs right now, and so I don't want to have
the hood popped up to pull the dist. cap off, but I'm planning on
doing it tomorrow morning.

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      25-02-2006

"Aawara Chowdhury" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> As of this morning, my car will turn, but not catch ignition. It
> worked fine last evening. I did check and saw that it was getting
> fuel. I suspect the distributor cap or rotor. Is this a common
> problem, and can it fail so suddenly?
>

Probably happens to every car ever built, sometime or other. The mechanics
always pull a lead off a plug or better, remove a plug and see if a spark
will jump a short distance either to the plug or block. It's easier when
it's dark and only experience tells if the spark is strong enough - I'm
terrifed of getting booted and not very good at judging but that's the way
to check the spark. Then work back if there is no spark...


 
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Tim \(remove obvious\)
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      25-02-2006

"Aawara Chowdhury" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> As of this morning, my car will turn, but not catch ignition. It
> worked fine last evening. I did check and saw that it was getting
> fuel. I suspect the distributor cap or rotor. Is this a common
> problem, and can it fail so suddenly?
>


Last night? How long did it run last night? If less than 2 mins, then its
flooded. The white blocks love to do it when started up / shut down without
warm up.

Pull fuel pump fuse. Crank for around 30 seconds throttle wide open or until
it splutters. Replace fuse. With throttle wide open again (dont pump it)
crank again in a continuous burst.

If no sign of starting, you'll have to pull the plugs clean and dry them and
try again.

Tim..


 
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JDG
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      25-02-2006
It could also be your Ignition Coil is bad if no spark. Mine died in the
rain on 94 850 turbo.
 
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Stuart Cormie
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      27-02-2006
Moisture inside the distributor cap? I've had that problem with my 850.
Just pull the cap from its mount, wipe dry everything inside, quick
dose of WD40, reassemble.

 
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Mike Mayer
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      27-02-2006
I had this happen twice on my 1993 850, for different reasons.

1. I had run the car just long enough on a Saturday,to pull it in the
garage after washing it. Monday morning, it would not start. Had it towed
to Volvo shop, where they pulled the plugs, which were soaked with gasoline.
Problem: Engine flooded itself. Is a known problem when you only run it
for several seconds then let it sit. Next time you drive it, then it won't
start (or will be very difficult to start). Mechanic recommended that I let
the engine run for a few minutes at a minimum, not just several seconds.
Have followed that advice, have not run into the problem since.

2. There is a smaller diameter red wire running down from the + side of the
battery. This wire is for the ignition (the big fat one is for the
starter). On my car, it died because the wire had chafed up against the
battery tray over the years, letting small amounts of gunk, water, and
residual battery acid leak into the wire core, past the insulation. Over
the years, the copper corroded away and finally, an open circuit. Thus no
juice to the ignition = dead car. Had car towed. Volvo shop re-spliced and
re-insulated the wire, all was fine.

Mike

"Aawara Chowdhury" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>
> As of this morning, my car will turn, but not catch ignition. It
> worked fine last evening. I did check and saw that it was getting
> fuel. I suspect the distributor cap or rotor. Is this a common
> problem, and can it fail so suddenly?
>
> Thanks,
> AC
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Aawara Chowdhury
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      01-03-2006
In <1fLMf.4523$(E-Mail Removed) et>,
Mike Mayer <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> I had this happen twice on my 1993 850, for different reasons.
>
> 1. I had run the car just long enough on a Saturday,to pull it in the
> garage after washing it. Monday morning, it would not start. Had it towed
> to Volvo shop, where they pulled the plugs, which were soaked with gasoline.
> Problem: Engine flooded itself. Is a known problem when you only run it
> for several seconds then let it sit. Next time you drive it, then it won't
> start (or will be very difficult to start). Mechanic recommended that I let
> the engine run for a few minutes at a minimum, not just several seconds.
> Have followed that advice, have not run into the problem since.


I finally got around to looking at the car on Monday, dried the plugs (they
were soaked). Car wouldn't start, and there was no compression. I didn't
know what to do, but a buddy of mine suggested that maybe the flooding was
so bad that it soaked past the seals.

So I put oil in the cylinders, let it sit overnight - spent the day at
Mardi Gras yesterday, and checked compression this morning. It was okay
(between 150 - 158). Started it up, and it started fine, blew black
smoke for about 5 minutes (burning up the oil, I guess), and then was
just fine.

Moral of the story - I'm never going to turn the engine on for just 15
seconds to move the car five feet again.

While I was at it, I did change the plugs - I put in Bosch Platinum2. I
hadn't changed the plugs in about 15000 miles, so it was due.

AC
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Mike Mayer
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      03-03-2006
Excellent! Good work. Glad it started.

Mike

"Aawara Chowdhury" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> In <1fLMf.4523$(E-Mail Removed) et>,
> Mike Mayer <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>> I had this happen twice on my 1993 850, for different reasons.
>>
>> 1. I had run the car just long enough on a Saturday,to pull it in the
>> garage after washing it. Monday morning, it would not start. Had it
>> towed
>> to Volvo shop, where they pulled the plugs, which were soaked with
>> gasoline.
>> Problem: Engine flooded itself. Is a known problem when you only run it
>> for several seconds then let it sit. Next time you drive it, then it
>> won't
>> start (or will be very difficult to start). Mechanic recommended that I
>> let
>> the engine run for a few minutes at a minimum, not just several seconds.
>> Have followed that advice, have not run into the problem since.

>
> I finally got around to looking at the car on Monday, dried the plugs
> (they
> were soaked). Car wouldn't start, and there was no compression. I didn't
> know what to do, but a buddy of mine suggested that maybe the flooding was
> so bad that it soaked past the seals.
>
> So I put oil in the cylinders, let it sit overnight - spent the day at
> Mardi Gras yesterday, and checked compression this morning. It was okay
> (between 150 - 158). Started it up, and it started fine, blew black
> smoke for about 5 minutes (burning up the oil, I guess), and then was
> just fine.
>
> Moral of the story - I'm never going to turn the engine on for just 15
> seconds to move the car five feet again.
>
> While I was at it, I did change the plugs - I put in Bosch Platinum2. I
> hadn't changed the plugs in about 15000 miles, so it was due.
>
> AC
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John Robertson
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      12-03-2006
We have a product here for hard to start motors its called "start ya bastard
" an ether based product .My wife was disgusted they should sell such a
product

"Mike Mayer" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Excellent! Good work. Glad it started.
>
> Mike
>
> "Aawara Chowdhury" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:mvkNf.10357$(E-Mail Removed).. .
>> In <1fLMf.4523$(E-Mail Removed) et>,
>> Mike Mayer <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>
>>> I had this happen twice on my 1993 850, for different reasons.
>>>
>>> 1. I had run the car just long enough on a Saturday,to pull it in the
>>> garage after washing it. Monday morning, it would not start. Had it
>>> towed
>>> to Volvo shop, where they pulled the plugs, which were soaked with
>>> gasoline.
>>> Problem: Engine flooded itself. Is a known problem when you only run
>>> it
>>> for several seconds then let it sit. Next time you drive it, then it
>>> won't
>>> start (or will be very difficult to start). Mechanic recommended that I
>>> let
>>> the engine run for a few minutes at a minimum, not just several seconds.
>>> Have followed that advice, have not run into the problem since.

>>
>> I finally got around to looking at the car on Monday, dried the plugs
>> (they
>> were soaked). Car wouldn't start, and there was no compression. I
>> didn't
>> know what to do, but a buddy of mine suggested that maybe the flooding
>> was
>> so bad that it soaked past the seals.
>>
>> So I put oil in the cylinders, let it sit overnight - spent the day at
>> Mardi Gras yesterday, and checked compression this morning. It was okay
>> (between 150 - 158). Started it up, and it started fine, blew black
>> smoke for about 5 minutes (burning up the oil, I guess), and then was
>> just fine.
>>
>> Moral of the story - I'm never going to turn the engine on for just 15
>> seconds to move the car five feet again.
>>
>> While I was at it, I did change the plugs - I put in Bosch Platinum2. I
>> hadn't changed the plugs in about 15000 miles, so it was due.
>>
>> AC
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>
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