C70 convertible problem with window mechanism

Some bad luck, which has a lesson learned...

Bought my C70 T5 convertible new in 2000, fine car, great to drive.
Everything OK except for not properly closing front windows, driver side
worse than passenger side. It was fixed under warranty a few times, but kept
coming back after some months. The dealer also repaired it once after
warranty expired. The last time he charged ~80E, I wasn't too happy about
it, but didn't complain too loudly. I enjoyed the car!
Recently I moved and mentioned the same problem - it was back again - to the
new dealer. After investigation, he suggested a real fix. The steel cable to
move the window up/down had now almost broken.
But... he quoted some 900 E [1165$] (per window) of which 530 E [685$]
(excl. tax) just for the window mechanism!!
(I only need the cable, but this is not available separately, only the
complete thing, including electric motor, nut, bolts, washers, bowden
cables, everything...)
As is clear, the reason for the problem is incorrect adjustment/repair
(consistently) by the dealer in the past years, leading to the cable being
damaged. If only it had been really solved under warranty...

- anyone has a similar experience?
- any support from Volvo itself?

W.

Wytze wrote:
> Some bad luck, which has a lesson learned...
>
> Bought my C70 T5 convertible new in 2000, fine car, great to drive.
> Everything OK except for not properly closing front windows, driver side
> worse than passenger side. It was fixed under warranty a few times, but kept
> coming back after some months. The dealer also repaired it once after
> warranty expired. The last time he charged ~80E, I wasn't too happy about
> it, but didn't complain too loudly. I enjoyed the car!
> Recently I moved and mentioned the same problem - it was back again - to the
> new dealer. After investigation, he suggested a real fix. The steel cable to
> move the window up/down had now almost broken.
> But... he quoted some 900 E [1165$] (per window) of which 530 E [685$]
> (excl. tax) just for the window mechanism!!
> (I only need the cable, but this is not available separately, only the
> complete thing, including electric motor, nut, bolts, washers, bowden
> cables, everything...)
> As is clear, the reason for the problem is incorrect adjustment/repair
> (consistently) by the dealer in the past years, leading to the cable being
> damaged. If only it had been really solved under warranty...
>
> - anyone has a similar experience?
> - any support from Volvo itself?
>
> W.
>
>
Known problem with the setup but there is no correction from volvo as
for the high cost its because you are purchasing the whole cassite which
needs to be adjusted once installed not a very nice repair I have done a
few of these & always try to stay away from this repair

--
"*-344-*Never Forgotten"
Is for the New York City Firemen who lost their lives on September 11,2001.
The official count is 343, but there was also a volunteer who lost his life
aiding in the initial rescue efforts. And I will never forget them as
long as I live,
nor should any American.

Glenn,

Thanks. So: bad luck. Any Volvo rep around!?! Same construction in normal
C70 I guess!

I have ordered the whole thing, comes indeed even with a new window motor,
something which btw *can* be ordered separately...
Would you have any tips on the repair procedure and adjustments?

W.

"Glenn Klein" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Wytze wrote:
>> Some bad luck, which has a lesson learned...
>>
>> Bought my C70 T5 convertible new in 2000, fine car, great to drive.
>> Everything OK except for not properly closing front windows, driver side
>> worse than passenger side. It was fixed under warranty a few times, but
>> kept coming back after some months. The dealer also repaired it once
>> after warranty expired. The last time he charged ~80E, I wasn't too happy
>> about it, but didn't complain too loudly. I enjoyed the car!
>> Recently I moved and mentioned the same problem - it was back again - to
>> the new dealer. After investigation, he suggested a real fix. The steel
>> cable to move the window up/down had now almost broken.
>> But... he quoted some 900 E [1165$] (per window) of which 530 E [685$]
>> (excl. tax) just for the window mechanism!!
>> (I only need the cable, but this is not available separately, only the
>> complete thing, including electric motor, nut, bolts, washers, bowden
>> cables, everything...)
>> As is clear, the reason for the problem is incorrect adjustment/repair
>> (consistently) by the dealer in the past years, leading to the cable
>> being damaged. If only it had been really solved under warranty...
>>
>> - anyone has a similar experience?
>> - any support from Volvo itself?
>>
>> W.
> Known problem with the setup but there is no correction from volvo as for
> the high cost its because you are purchasing the whole cassite which needs
> to be adjusted once installed not a very nice repair I have done a few of
> these & always try to stay away from this repair
>
> --
> "*-344-*Never Forgotten"
> Is for the New York City Firemen who lost their lives on September
> 11,2001.
> The official count is 343, but there was also a volunteer who lost his
> life
> aiding in the initial rescue efforts. And I will never forget them as long
> as I live,
> nor should any American.

Wytze wrote:
> Glenn,
>
> Thanks. So: bad luck. Any Volvo rep around!?! Same construction in normal
> C70 I guess!
>
> I have ordered the whole thing, comes indeed even with a new window motor,
> something which btw *can* be ordered separately...
> Would you have any tips on the repair procedure and adjustments?
>
> W.
>
> "Glenn Klein" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>
>>Wytze wrote:
>>
>>>Some bad luck, which has a lesson learned...
>>>
>>>Bought my C70 T5 convertible new in 2000, fine car, great to drive.
>>>Everything OK except for not properly closing front windows, driver side
>>>worse than passenger side. It was fixed under warranty a few times, but
>>>kept coming back after some months. The dealer also repaired it once
>>>after warranty expired. The last time he charged ~80E, I wasn't too happy
>>>about it, but didn't complain too loudly. I enjoyed the car!
>>>Recently I moved and mentioned the same problem - it was back again - to
>>>the new dealer. After investigation, he suggested a real fix. The steel
>>>cable to move the window up/down had now almost broken.
>>>But... he quoted some 900 E [1165$] (per window) of which 530 E [685$]
>>>(excl. tax) just for the window mechanism!!
>>>(I only need the cable, but this is not available separately, only the
>>>complete thing, including electric motor, nut, bolts, washers, bowden
>>>cables, everything...)
>>>As is clear, the reason for the problem is incorrect adjustment/repair
>>>(consistently) by the dealer in the past years, leading to the cable
>>>being damaged. If only it had been really solved under warranty...
>>>
>>>- anyone has a similar experience?
>>>- any support from Volvo itself?
>>>
>>>W.
>>
>>Known problem with the setup but there is no correction from volvo as for
>>the high cost its because you are purchasing the whole cassite which needs
>>to be adjusted once installed not a very nice repair I have done a few of
>>these & always try to stay away from this repair
>>
>>--
>> "*-344-*Never Forgotten"
>>Is for the New York City Firemen who lost their lives on September
>>11,2001.
>>The official count is 343, but there was also a volunteer who lost his
>>life
>>aiding in the initial rescue efforts. And I will never forget them as long
>>as I live,
>>nor should any American.
>
>
>
On Monday I will bring the information home & post that night for you &
whoever else wants a copy
Glenn

--
"*-344-*Never Forgotten"
Is for the New York City Firemen who lost their lives on September 11,2001.
The official count is 343, but there was also a volunteer who lost his life
aiding in the initial rescue efforts. And I will never forget them as
long as I live,
nor should any American.

Great!

In the mean time the part (number 9467884) arrived. A huge box with indeed
the complete mechanism (motor, bowden cables, *the* steel cable, sliding
mechanism, sliders, etc), premounted in a frame. I'll try a made a picture
some day.

W.

"Glenn Klein" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Wytze wrote:
>> Glenn,
>>
>> Thanks. So: bad luck. Any Volvo rep around!?! Same construction in normal
>> C70 I guess!
>>
>> I have ordered the whole thing, comes indeed even with a new window
>> motor, something which btw *can* be ordered separately...
>> Would you have any tips on the repair procedure and adjustments?
>>
>> W.
>>
>> "Glenn Klein" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>
>>>Wytze wrote:
>>>
>>>>Some bad luck, which has a lesson learned...
>>>>
>>>>Bought my C70 T5 convertible new in 2000, fine car, great to drive.
>>>>Everything OK except for not properly closing front windows, driver side
>>>>worse than passenger side. It was fixed under warranty a few times, but
>>>>kept coming back after some months. The dealer also repaired it once
>>>>after warranty expired. The last time he charged ~80E, I wasn't too
>>>>happy about it, but didn't complain too loudly. I enjoyed the car!
>>>>Recently I moved and mentioned the same problem - it was back again - to
>>>>the new dealer. After investigation, he suggested a real fix. The steel
>>>>cable to move the window up/down had now almost broken.
>>>>But... he quoted some 900 E [1165$] (per window) of which 530 E [685$]
>>>>(excl. tax) just for the window mechanism!!
>>>>(I only need the cable, but this is not available separately, only the
>>>>complete thing, including electric motor, nut, bolts, washers, bowden
>>>>cables, everything...)
>>>>As is clear, the reason for the problem is incorrect adjustment/repair
>>>>(consistently) by the dealer in the past years, leading to the cable
>>>>being damaged. If only it had been really solved under warranty...
>>>>
>>>>- anyone has a similar experience?
>>>>- any support from Volvo itself?
>>>>
>>>>W.
>>>
>>>Known problem with the setup but there is no correction from volvo as for
>>>the high cost its because you are purchasing the whole cassite which
>>>needs to be adjusted once installed not a very nice repair I have done a
>>>few of these & always try to stay away from this repair
>>>
>>>--
>>> "*-344-*Never Forgotten"
>>>Is for the New York City Firemen who lost their lives on September
>>>11,2001.
>>>The official count is 343, but there was also a volunteer who lost his
>>>life
>>>aiding in the initial rescue efforts. And I will never forget them as
>>>long as I live,
>>>nor should any American.
>>
>>
>>
> On Monday I will bring the information home & post that night for you &
> whoever else wants a copy
> Glenn
>
> --
> "*-344-*Never Forgotten"
> Is for the New York City Firemen who lost their lives on September
> 11,2001.
> The official count is 343, but there was also a volunteer who lost his
> life
> aiding in the initial rescue efforts. And I will never forget them as long
> as I live,
> nor should any American.