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Charlie Derk 24-07-2003 12:50 AM

S60 Daytime Running Lights
 
Sorry if this is a repost...

Does anyone know how the heck to get the headlights on a 2001 S60 to
actually shut off while driving? I put about 1000 miles a week on my car
and most of it is during the day. I hate having my lights on all the time.

What confuses the hell out of me is why they have an on/off switch on the
headlights when OFF, really doesn't turn them off.

Any suggestions?

Thanks,
Charlie



Gunner 24-07-2003 01:38 AM

Re: S60 Daytime Running Lights
 
I realize that you just landed from planet Zolton.
YOU DON"T GET TO SHIT THEM OFF.

THEY ARE TO PROTECT OTHER DRIVERS FROM IDIOTS WHO GET BEHIND THE WHEEL. THEY
ARE A SAFETY DEVICE THE SAME AS SEAT BELTS, AIR BAGS AND A BRAIN THAT
FUNCTIONS CORRECTLY!


"Charlie Derk" <c-d-e-r-k@r-c-n.c-o-m> wrote in message
news:bfnag6$ncg$1@bob.news.rcn.net...
> Sorry if this is a repost...
>
> Does anyone know how the heck to get the headlights on a 2001 S60 to
> actually shut off while driving? I put about 1000 miles a week on my car
> and most of it is during the day. I hate having my lights on all the

time.
>
> What confuses the hell out of me is why they have an on/off switch on the
> headlights when OFF, really doesn't turn them off.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> Thanks,
> Charlie
>
>




Stewart Hargrave 24-07-2003 02:08 AM

Re: S60 Daytime Running Lights
 
From a point at sea, to the circles of your mind, this is Gunner:

>I realize that you just landed from planet Zolton.
>YOU DON"T GET TO SHIT THEM OFF.
>
>THEY ARE TO PROTECT OTHER DRIVERS FROM IDIOTS WHO GET BEHIND THE WHEEL. THEY
>ARE A SAFETY DEVICE THE SAME AS SEAT BELTS, AIR BAGS AND A BRAIN THAT
>FUNCTIONS CORRECTLY!


Wrong. But thanks for being so succinct.


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Bob Noble 24-07-2003 08:42 AM

Re: S60 Daytime Running Lights
 
No problem shutting off those light - - if you're a dealer.

With the S80, we were introduced to the electronic showcase that Volvo's
have become. They have, actually, broken a lot of gound on this. For
those of us accustomed to "playing car," as my wife would have it, it's
a pain. I always have that nagging doubt of a minor failure causing my
S60 to stop *dead* at the side of the road. No fail-safe, no way to get
it to return home on other than the wrecker's flatbed. If you didn't
happen to know, your S60/80 has 40+ microprocessors outside the main
computer!!

Bitching finished - Now just ask your Dealer, nicely, to set the switch
in the computer that will make that light switch mean something again.
Don't be too hard on him if he refuses, as this is an identified "safety
feature" and he, technically, lays himself open to litigation if you
have an accident where the other driver just doesn't see you! If he
doesn't know this, he just might help out.

bob noble
Reno, NV, USA

Stewart Hargrave 24-07-2003 12:11 PM

Re: S60 Daytime Running Lights
 
From a point at sea, to the circles of your mind, this is Gunner:

>Some countries


<snip bollox>

You really are a ****wit, aren't you? Your answers demonstrate that
you are not interested in road safety so much as simply telling others
what they should or shouldn't do.

The gentleman asked a polite, intelligent and relevant question; this
alone sets him a league above you with your idiotic answers. He was
asking to do nothing illegal or offensive. People disagree with you;
get used to it.

Charlie, we're not all as stupid or pigheaded as this twit seems to
demostrate.


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Proconsul 24-07-2003 04:16 PM

Re: S60 Daytime Running Lights
 

"Gunner" <arty_15999@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:NfacnVeu5Ie9N4KiXTWJiQ@comcast.com...
| Some countries, Canada for one, has had daylight running light legislation
| for decades. Therefore no aggression. Could the original inquisitor be
from
| the US? The land of the inalienable right to express your stupidity.

Don't be so aggresively stupid yourself - Canada and other liberal paradises
may exercise mind control over their citizens instead of allowing freedom of
thought, but we don't do that to the same extent - yet - in the USA.....

| In the US there is NO problem whenever you see an aggressive oncoming
| vehicle with daylight running lights stop your vehicle, pull out your AK47
| assault rifle and blast away. That will teach the SOB from buying a Volvo
| which happens to be known for building safety into its cars.

Unadulterated, whacko BS.....

| Why did our original inquisitor buy a Volvo?? Brain Fart?

Maybe he thought he was buying a quality car - does everyone who thinks
differently from you function with "brain farts"rather than a logical
process? What's your excuse for being a low grade moron.....?

| By the way when he dismantle this safety feature he should tell his
| insurance company.
| They will be most amused that he will be increasing his likelihood of
| costing them money.

This "safety feature" borders on the terminally stupid - has zero effect and
qualifies as an annoyance that only a liberal twit could "love".....

| The Defensive Driving Course tries to explain to drivers how they can
avoid
| accidents even if everyone around you is behaving badly.

DRLs don't have the slightest influence on "avoiding accidents". Avoiding
accidents requires an alert driver with a brain, not a liberal law.....!

| You have taught me to pay particular attention to Volvos.

One would hope that you would pay attention to everyone and everything -
especially liberal idiots who rely on lights rather than their brains....

| Let's stop this soon.

Good idea - quit while you're behind.....:)

PC

| "Mr. Slow" <millenniumgoldspammersarebastards_@crouchvale.fre eserve.co.uk>
| wrote in message news:bfo85f$4fq$1@newsg1.svr.pol.co.uk...
| > This issue has been well debated here before. It is suggested by some
that
| > the daytime running lights are a safety feature, while others simply
find
| > them unnecessary, embarrassing and unsafe. I too am frustrated that the
| > "off" position of the light switch does not, in fact, turn the lights
off
| > and I wonder why there is a light switch at all. My view is that many
| > motorists interpret the daytime running lights as a gesture of
aggression
| on
| > the part on the Volvo driver, which is why I always drive on sidelights
| > during the day. The problem is then that one must remember to turn the
| light
| > switch to "off" when the car is parked, otherwise the sidelights stay
on.
| >
| > I am afraid that daytime running lights have been imposed upon all of us
| > because of the idiots who do not know how to use their lights properly,
| not
| > only at night but also when visibility is poor in rain, murk or fog.
These
| > are probably the same people who never check oil, coolant and washer
| bottle
| > levels. It's engineering for the lowest common denominator , I'm afraid.
| >
| > "Charlie Derk" <c-d-e-r-k@r-c-n.c-o-m> wrote in message
| > news:bfnag6$ncg$1@bob.news.rcn.net...
| > > Sorry if this is a repost...
| > >
| > > Does anyone know how the heck to get the headlights on a 2001 S60 to
| > > actually shut off while driving? I put about 1000 miles a week on my
| car
| > > and most of it is during the day. I hate having my lights on all the
| > time.
| > >
| > > What confuses the hell out of me is why they have an on/off switch on
| the
| > > headlights when OFF, really doesn't turn them off.
| > >
| > > Any suggestions?
| > >
| > > Thanks,
| > > Charlie
| > >
| > >
| >
| >
|
|



Stewart Hargrave 24-07-2003 05:14 PM

Re: S60 Daytime Running Lights
 
From a point at sea, to the circles of your mind, this is Stephen M.
Henning:


>You forgot[..] when the sun is
>behind your car and oncoming cars can't see you


Actually, I have seen with my own eyes that this is not right. If a
vehicle is approaching you with the sun behind it, putting the lights
on can make it disappear altogether, because the lights will then
occlude the silhoutette of the vehicle. In fact, I believe some
defence departments have experimented with this lighting effect to
make tanks and things disappear when approaching the enemy from out of
the sun.


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Stuart Gray 24-07-2003 07:28 PM

Re: S60 Daytime Running Lights
 

"Stephen M. Henning" <pighash@aol.com> wrote in message
news:pighash-0A7988.09084424072003@nnrp06.earthlink.net...
> "Charlie Derk" <cderk@rcn.com> wrote:
>
> > What confuses the hell out of me is why they have an on/off switch on

the
> > headlights when OFF, really doesn't turn them off.

>
> In the on position, the hi-low switch activates the high beams.
>
> In the off position, the hi-low switch flashes the high beams.
>
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The subject of Volvo running lights and whether to use them or not must
qualify as one of the best unintentional trolls ever !!!!!
Personally I use mine, but I really couldn't get excited about it. Plenty
other makes of car on the road don't have daylight lights, doesn't bother me
either.
I do ride my bike with lights on tho, except for my old Triumph Trailblazer,
the battery would flatten, but you can hear the bike coming long before you
would see a light.. I haven't had a crash in my Volvo, or my Triumph, but I
have had crashes.

Stuart.



Charlie Derk 25-07-2003 01:53 AM

Re: S60 Daytime Running Lights
 
Thanks to all for the replies.
I think daytime running lights are a good idea - I think the Volvo
implementation sucks. Most other cars have a different set of lights for
the day. It just sucks having the normal headlights on 24/7.

Thanks again!
Charlie

"Charlie Derk" <c-d-e-r-k@r-c-n.c-o-m> wrote in message
news:bfnag6$ncg$1@bob.news.rcn.net...
> Sorry if this is a repost...
>
> Does anyone know how the heck to get the headlights on a 2001 S60 to
> actually shut off while driving? I put about 1000 miles a week on my car
> and most of it is during the day. I hate having my lights on all the

time.
>
> What confuses the hell out of me is why they have an on/off switch on the
> headlights when OFF, really doesn't turn them off.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> Thanks,
> Charlie
>
>




Stephen M. Henning 25-07-2003 11:57 AM

Re: S60 Daytime Running Lights
 
"Charlie Derk" <cderk@rcn.com> wrote:

> Most other cars have a different set of lights for
> the day. It just sucks having the normal headlights on 24/7.
>
> Thanks again!
> Charlie


What you are saying is that is sucks for people to see Charlie Derk
driving a car with normal headlights on during the daytime.

What I am saying is that the bigger the headlights the better because
that may be the one thing that keeps someone from running a stop sign
and pulling out right in front of me on the country roads I drive every
day. Even with regular headlights on during the day, some idiots are
still are blind.

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