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Deacon Eisenhart
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      01-05-2005
I am seeing, usually first, an STC error, tells me to stop safely.

Now is accompanied by the following messages:

ABS Service Required
STC Service Required
Power Steering Service Required
Emission Control Service Required
Brake Failure, Stop ASAP

I plug my ODBII scanner in and I get code P1633 (Manufacturer Aux
Input/Outputs). I clear the code with the scanner, and all messages go
away for awhile, sometimes a day. Sometimes an hour.

Everything seems fine, no power loss or other problems. I understand this
computer system uses a CANN system, somehow it multiplexes signals and sends
them between the computer modules. Someone suggested that possibly one code
could hit a trouble (like STC), and that the data buses can possibly flood
themselves causing delays in communication with other sensors. The delays
cause the computer to think other systems are down, causing the messages on
the dashboard.

I suspect a possible vaccuum leak on the brake booster, I hear a slight
hiss - perhaps that is enough to throw the whole system out of whack.

Since so many system seems involved, I also still suspect an alternator
problem as well?!?

Has anybody had the combination of problems?

Not happy with my "new" S80s temper.

Deacon Eisenhart


 
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      01-05-2005
i experienced a problem with a 98 s-90 i think it was had a burned ic chip
on back side of speedo head unfortunately due to odometer tampering laws in
us i was unable to purchase the ic chip to repair it myself ..just an idea
to look at the dash is fairly easy to remove takes about 15 minutes i
rebuild transmissions for a living and do automotive ecu repairs on the side
at night...like i said not sure but could be a circuit malfunction on the
backside of the dash since most main signals are sent thru the ic film on
back of dash
"Deacon Eisenhart" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> I am seeing, usually first, an STC error, tells me to stop safely.
>
> Now is accompanied by the following messages:
>
> ABS Service Required
> STC Service Required
> Power Steering Service Required
> Emission Control Service Required
> Brake Failure, Stop ASAP
>
> I plug my ODBII scanner in and I get code P1633 (Manufacturer Aux
> Input/Outputs). I clear the code with the scanner, and all messages go
> away for awhile, sometimes a day. Sometimes an hour.
>
> Everything seems fine, no power loss or other problems. I understand this
> computer system uses a CANN system, somehow it multiplexes signals and

sends
> them between the computer modules. Someone suggested that possibly one

code
> could hit a trouble (like STC), and that the data buses can possibly flood
> themselves causing delays in communication with other sensors. The delays
> cause the computer to think other systems are down, causing the messages

on
> the dashboard.
>
> I suspect a possible vaccuum leak on the brake booster, I hear a slight
> hiss - perhaps that is enough to throw the whole system out of whack.
>
> Since so many system seems involved, I also still suspect an alternator
> problem as well?!?
>
> Has anybody had the combination of problems?
>
> Not happy with my "new" S80s temper.
>
> Deacon Eisenhart
>
>



 
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shaun
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      01-05-2005
Deacon Eisenhart wrote:
> I am seeing, usually first, an STC error, tells me to stop safely.
>
> Now is accompanied by the following messages:
>
> ABS Service Required
> STC Service Required
> Power Steering Service Required
> Emission Control Service Required
> Brake Failure, Stop ASAP


Had all these errors when my ABS computer went south. Mucho £££ to fix.
There is somebody who repairs them in the US but can't remember his name...

Welcome to the '99 S80 owners club. It's a very expensive club to be a
member of :-(


 
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newtovolvo
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      02-05-2005
"shaun" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
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> Deacon Eisenhart wrote:
>> I am seeing, usually first, an STC error, tells me to stop safely.
>>
>> Now is accompanied by the following messages:
>>
>> ABS Service Required
>> STC Service Required
>> Power Steering Service Required
>> Emission Control Service Required
>> Brake Failure, Stop ASAP

>
> Had all these errors when my ABS computer went south. Mucho £££ to
> fix. There is somebody who repairs them in the US but can't remember
> his name...
>
> Welcome to the '99 S80 owners club. It's a very expensive club to be a
> member of :-(
>
>
>

Found this re: ABS repair.


http://home.earthlink.net/~vicrocha/

I am not connected with this fellow,
I am simply keeping him in mind
should I need his services myself.

The services offered looks like an alternative
if this is what you need.
 
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      02-05-2005
hummm...interesting web site and volvo info...thanx
for the url........


http://home.earthlink.net/~vicrocha/

 
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Deacon Eisenhart
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      02-05-2005
When I bought the car, I bought a 2 year unlimited mile warranty. I hope it
all works out and the problems that need fixed are fixed.

Thank you for the link, I did come across that before and bookmarked it. It
seems like the Volvo computer is useless technology if one code triggers
another. My car tells me power steering is failed. Why? I'll know when it
fails when it doesn't work anymore.

I really hope that somewhere out there, beyond this newgroup, there are
people happily driving these cars without any problems.

I bought a great christmas CD that I am going to play when things start
lighting up. Maybe it'll help me cope.

Deacon





"Deacon Eisenhart" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:MradnVxx--Ent-nfRVn-(E-Mail Removed)...
>I am seeing, usually first, an STC error, tells me to stop safely.
>
> Now is accompanied by the following messages:
>
> ABS Service Required
> STC Service Required
> Power Steering Service Required
> Emission Control Service Required
> Brake Failure, Stop ASAP
>
> I plug my ODBII scanner in and I get code P1633 (Manufacturer Aux
> Input/Outputs). I clear the code with the scanner, and all messages go
> away for awhile, sometimes a day. Sometimes an hour.
>
> Everything seems fine, no power loss or other problems. I understand this
> computer system uses a CANN system, somehow it multiplexes signals and
> sends them between the computer modules. Someone suggested that possibly
> one code could hit a trouble (like STC), and that the data buses can
> possibly flood themselves causing delays in communication with other
> sensors. The delays cause the computer to think other systems are down,
> causing the messages on the dashboard.
>
> I suspect a possible vaccuum leak on the brake booster, I hear a slight
> hiss - perhaps that is enough to throw the whole system out of whack.
>
> Since so many system seems involved, I also still suspect an alternator
> problem as well?!?
>
> Has anybody had the combination of problems?
>
> Not happy with my "new" S80s temper.
>
> Deacon Eisenhart
>



 
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Mike F
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      02-05-2005
Deacon Eisenhart wrote:
>
> When I bought the car, I bought a 2 year unlimited mile warranty. I hope it
> all works out and the problems that need fixed are fixed.
>
> Thank you for the link, I did come across that before and bookmarked it. It
> seems like the Volvo computer is useless technology if one code triggers
> another. My car tells me power steering is failed. Why? I'll know when it
> fails when it doesn't work anymore.
>
> I really hope that somewhere out there, beyond this newgroup, there are
> people happily driving these cars without any problems.
>
> I bought a great christmas CD that I am going to play when things start
> lighting up. Maybe it'll help me cope.
>
> Deacon
>
> "Deacon Eisenhart" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:MradnVxx--Ent-nfRVn-(E-Mail Removed)...
> >I am seeing, usually first, an STC error, tells me to stop safely.
> >
> > Now is accompanied by the following messages:
> >
> > ABS Service Required
> > STC Service Required
> > Power Steering Service Required
> > Emission Control Service Required
> > Brake Failure, Stop ASAP
> >
> > I plug my ODBII scanner in and I get code P1633 (Manufacturer Aux
> > Input/Outputs). I clear the code with the scanner, and all messages go
> > away for awhile, sometimes a day. Sometimes an hour.
> >
> > Everything seems fine, no power loss or other problems. I understand this
> > computer system uses a CANN system, somehow it multiplexes signals and
> > sends them between the computer modules. Someone suggested that possibly
> > one code could hit a trouble (like STC), and that the data buses can
> > possibly flood themselves causing delays in communication with other
> > sensors. The delays cause the computer to think other systems are down,
> > causing the messages on the dashboard.
> >
> > I suspect a possible vaccuum leak on the brake booster, I hear a slight
> > hiss - perhaps that is enough to throw the whole system out of whack.
> >
> > Since so many system seems involved, I also still suspect an alternator
> > problem as well?!?
> >
> > Has anybody had the combination of problems?
> >
> > Not happy with my "new" S80s temper.
> >
> > Deacon Eisenhart
> >


When there's a problem with the ABS computer, often the errors involve a
problem with the computer reading the wheel sensors. This will then
generate an error in all the systems that use wheel speed info, as the
ABS computer is the one that reports this info onto the network. This
would account for the STC message, and maybe the power steering message,
if you have speed sensitive power steering.
The brake booster leak is a fairly common problem on those cars as well.
The "Emission Control Service Required" message it the equivalent of the
check engine light, the code for that will be readable with a generic
OBD-II scan tool.

--
Mike F.
Thornhill (near Toronto), Ont.

Replace tt with t (twice!) and remove parentheses to email me directly.
(But I check the newsgroup more often than this email address.)
 
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      02-05-2005

"Mike F" <"mikef2316()"@allsttream.nett> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Deacon Eisenhart wrote:
>>
>> When I bought the car, I bought a 2 year unlimited mile warranty. I hope
>> it
>> all works out and the problems that need fixed are fixed.
>>
>> Thank you for the link, I did come across that before and bookmarked it.
>> It
>> seems like the Volvo computer is useless technology if one code triggers
>> another. My car tells me power steering is failed. Why? I'll know when
>> it
>> fails when it doesn't work anymore.
>>
>> I really hope that somewhere out there, beyond this newgroup, there are
>> people happily driving these cars without any problems.
>>
>> I bought a great christmas CD that I am going to play when things start
>> lighting up. Maybe it'll help me cope.
>>
>> Deacon
>>
>> "Deacon Eisenhart" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:MradnVxx--Ent-nfRVn-(E-Mail Removed)...
>> >I am seeing, usually first, an STC error, tells me to stop safely.
>> >
>> > Now is accompanied by the following messages:
>> >
>> > ABS Service Required
>> > STC Service Required
>> > Power Steering Service Required
>> > Emission Control Service Required
>> > Brake Failure, Stop ASAP
>> >
>> > I plug my ODBII scanner in and I get code P1633 (Manufacturer Aux
>> > Input/Outputs). I clear the code with the scanner, and all messages
>> > go
>> > away for awhile, sometimes a day. Sometimes an hour.
>> >
>> > Everything seems fine, no power loss or other problems. I understand
>> > this
>> > computer system uses a CANN system, somehow it multiplexes signals and
>> > sends them between the computer modules. Someone suggested that
>> > possibly
>> > one code could hit a trouble (like STC), and that the data buses can
>> > possibly flood themselves causing delays in communication with other
>> > sensors. The delays cause the computer to think other systems are
>> > down,
>> > causing the messages on the dashboard.
>> >
>> > I suspect a possible vaccuum leak on the brake booster, I hear a slight
>> > hiss - perhaps that is enough to throw the whole system out of whack.
>> >
>> > Since so many system seems involved, I also still suspect an alternator
>> > problem as well?!?
>> >
>> > Has anybody had the combination of problems?
>> >
>> > Not happy with my "new" S80s temper.
>> >
>> > Deacon Eisenhart
>> >

>
> When there's a problem with the ABS computer, often the errors involve a
> problem with the computer reading the wheel sensors. This will then
> generate an error in all the systems that use wheel speed info, as the
> ABS computer is the one that reports this info onto the network. This
> would account for the STC message, and maybe the power steering message,
> if you have speed sensitive power steering.
> The brake booster leak is a fairly common problem on those cars as well.
> The "Emission Control Service Required" message it the equivalent of the
> check engine light, the code for that will be readable with a generic
> OBD-II scan tool.
>
> --
> Mike F.
> Thornhill (near Toronto), Ont.
>
> Replace tt with t (twice!) and remove parentheses to email me directly.
> (But I check the newsgroup more often than this email address.)



OBDII code P1633 = Volvo Code ECM-510F = Speed signal missing

It would seem that the ABS ECU is failing or there is a problem with the CAN
Bus.


 
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Deacon Eisenhart
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      02-05-2005
1. Does anyone having any idea how credible this source for ABS/STC module
repair is?
http://home.earthlink.net/~vicrocha/...AQ.htm#HowLong

2. I have not had any errors from the car today. I have an appointment
with the Volvo Dealer down the road in about a week, but I'm afraid that if
I cannot keep an error on the system, they may not be able to confirm a
module failure - or any problem at all. It seems like the braking messages
are being erased when the car is restarted.

3. I don't know why this is, but if I turn off the STC system, where I get
the warning light the system is disabled, usually within an engine restart
or later in the drive the car will show all of the previous aforementioned
codes.

4. Is there any place I can get a code translator or a computer scan tool
for reading the special Volvo codes?

Deacon


"OBD" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:427655bb$(E-Mail Removed)...
>
> "Mike F" <"mikef2316()"@allsttream.nett> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Deacon Eisenhart wrote:
>>>
>>> When I bought the car, I bought a 2 year unlimited mile warranty. I
>>> hope it
>>> all works out and the problems that need fixed are fixed.
>>>
>>> Thank you for the link, I did come across that before and bookmarked it.
>>> It
>>> seems like the Volvo computer is useless technology if one code triggers
>>> another. My car tells me power steering is failed. Why? I'll know
>>> when it
>>> fails when it doesn't work anymore.
>>>
>>> I really hope that somewhere out there, beyond this newgroup, there are
>>> people happily driving these cars without any problems.
>>>
>>> I bought a great christmas CD that I am going to play when things start
>>> lighting up. Maybe it'll help me cope.
>>>
>>> Deacon
>>>
>>> "Deacon Eisenhart" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>> news:MradnVxx--Ent-nfRVn-(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> >I am seeing, usually first, an STC error, tells me to stop safely.
>>> >
>>> > Now is accompanied by the following messages:
>>> >
>>> > ABS Service Required
>>> > STC Service Required
>>> > Power Steering Service Required
>>> > Emission Control Service Required
>>> > Brake Failure, Stop ASAP
>>> >
>>> > I plug my ODBII scanner in and I get code P1633 (Manufacturer Aux
>>> > Input/Outputs). I clear the code with the scanner, and all messages
>>> > go
>>> > away for awhile, sometimes a day. Sometimes an hour.
>>> >
>>> > Everything seems fine, no power loss or other problems. I understand
>>> > this
>>> > computer system uses a CANN system, somehow it multiplexes signals and
>>> > sends them between the computer modules. Someone suggested that
>>> > possibly
>>> > one code could hit a trouble (like STC), and that the data buses can
>>> > possibly flood themselves causing delays in communication with other
>>> > sensors. The delays cause the computer to think other systems are
>>> > down,
>>> > causing the messages on the dashboard.
>>> >
>>> > I suspect a possible vaccuum leak on the brake booster, I hear a
>>> > slight
>>> > hiss - perhaps that is enough to throw the whole system out of whack.
>>> >
>>> > Since so many system seems involved, I also still suspect an
>>> > alternator
>>> > problem as well?!?
>>> >
>>> > Has anybody had the combination of problems?
>>> >
>>> > Not happy with my "new" S80s temper.
>>> >
>>> > Deacon Eisenhart
>>> >

>>
>> When there's a problem with the ABS computer, often the errors involve a
>> problem with the computer reading the wheel sensors. This will then
>> generate an error in all the systems that use wheel speed info, as the
>> ABS computer is the one that reports this info onto the network. This
>> would account for the STC message, and maybe the power steering message,
>> if you have speed sensitive power steering.
>> The brake booster leak is a fairly common problem on those cars as well.
>> The "Emission Control Service Required" message it the equivalent of the
>> check engine light, the code for that will be readable with a generic
>> OBD-II scan tool.
>>
>> --
>> Mike F.
>> Thornhill (near Toronto), Ont.
>>
>> Replace tt with t (twice!) and remove parentheses to email me directly.
>> (But I check the newsgroup more often than this email address.)

>
>
> OBDII code P1633 = Volvo Code ECM-510F = Speed signal missing
>
> It would seem that the ABS ECU is failing or there is a problem with the
> CAN Bus.
>
>



 
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Big Dick
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      03-05-2005
I do not know anything about this specific repair place.
(Thanks for finding it and postint the site)
I know of another repair place just starting to repair ABS control units.
I know of 3 ABS brains that have been repaired and they are working ok.
The repair shop that I know about charges $180 to repair the ABS brain.
The repair place that you mentioned sounds like alot better deal.
I would not have any trouble sending them my ABS brain if (when) it fails.

If I remember right, a new ABS brain is around $300 to $400 US dollars.
Some repair shops and dealerships charge 1.5 hours to read codes and replace
the ABS brain.
At $80 per hour that is at least $120 labor alone.
Follow the instructions, take your time and you can remove and install the
brain yourself.
BD
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"Deacon Eisenhart" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
newsqednUC244ZSIOvfRVn-(E-Mail Removed)...
> 1. Does anyone having any idea how credible this source for ABS/STC
> module repair is?
> http://home.earthlink.net/~vicrocha/...AQ.htm#HowLong
>
> 2. I have not had any errors from the car today. I have an appointment
> with the Volvo Dealer down the road in about a week, but I'm afraid that
> if I cannot keep an error on the system, they may not be able to confirm a
> module failure - or any problem at all. It seems like the braking
> messages are being erased when the car is restarted.
>
> 3. I don't know why this is, but if I turn off the STC system, where I
> get the warning light the system is disabled, usually within an engine
> restart or later in the drive the car will show all of the previous
> aforementioned codes.
>
> 4. Is there any place I can get a code translator or a computer scan tool
> for reading the special Volvo codes?
>
> Deacon
>
>
> "OBD" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:427655bb$(E-Mail Removed)...
>>
>> "Mike F" <"mikef2316()"@allsttream.nett> wrote in message
>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> Deacon Eisenhart wrote:
>>>>
>>>> When I bought the car, I bought a 2 year unlimited mile warranty. I
>>>> hope it
>>>> all works out and the problems that need fixed are fixed.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you for the link, I did come across that before and bookmarked
>>>> it. It
>>>> seems like the Volvo computer is useless technology if one code
>>>> triggers
>>>> another. My car tells me power steering is failed. Why? I'll know
>>>> when it
>>>> fails when it doesn't work anymore.
>>>>
>>>> I really hope that somewhere out there, beyond this newgroup, there are
>>>> people happily driving these cars without any problems.
>>>>
>>>> I bought a great christmas CD that I am going to play when things start
>>>> lighting up. Maybe it'll help me cope.
>>>>
>>>> Deacon
>>>>
>>>> "Deacon Eisenhart" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>>> news:MradnVxx--Ent-nfRVn-(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>> >I am seeing, usually first, an STC error, tells me to stop safely.
>>>> >
>>>> > Now is accompanied by the following messages:
>>>> >
>>>> > ABS Service Required
>>>> > STC Service Required
>>>> > Power Steering Service Required
>>>> > Emission Control Service Required
>>>> > Brake Failure, Stop ASAP
>>>> >
>>>> > I plug my ODBII scanner in and I get code P1633 (Manufacturer Aux
>>>> > Input/Outputs). I clear the code with the scanner, and all messages
>>>> > go
>>>> > away for awhile, sometimes a day. Sometimes an hour.
>>>> >
>>>> > Everything seems fine, no power loss or other problems. I understand
>>>> > this
>>>> > computer system uses a CANN system, somehow it multiplexes signals
>>>> > and
>>>> > sends them between the computer modules. Someone suggested that
>>>> > possibly
>>>> > one code could hit a trouble (like STC), and that the data buses can
>>>> > possibly flood themselves causing delays in communication with other
>>>> > sensors. The delays cause the computer to think other systems are
>>>> > down,
>>>> > causing the messages on the dashboard.
>>>> >
>>>> > I suspect a possible vaccuum leak on the brake booster, I hear a
>>>> > slight
>>>> > hiss - perhaps that is enough to throw the whole system out of whack.
>>>> >
>>>> > Since so many system seems involved, I also still suspect an
>>>> > alternator
>>>> > problem as well?!?
>>>> >
>>>> > Has anybody had the combination of problems?
>>>> >
>>>> > Not happy with my "new" S80s temper.
>>>> >
>>>> > Deacon Eisenhart
>>>> >
>>>
>>> When there's a problem with the ABS computer, often the errors involve a
>>> problem with the computer reading the wheel sensors. This will then
>>> generate an error in all the systems that use wheel speed info, as the
>>> ABS computer is the one that reports this info onto the network. This
>>> would account for the STC message, and maybe the power steering message,
>>> if you have speed sensitive power steering.
>>> The brake booster leak is a fairly common problem on those cars as well.
>>> The "Emission Control Service Required" message it the equivalent of the
>>> check engine light, the code for that will be readable with a generic
>>> OBD-II scan tool.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Mike F.
>>> Thornhill (near Toronto), Ont.
>>>
>>> Replace tt with t (twice!) and remove parentheses to email me directly.
>>> (But I check the newsgroup more often than this email address.)

>>
>>
>> OBDII code P1633 = Volvo Code ECM-510F = Speed signal missing
>>
>> It would seem that the ABS ECU is failing or there is a problem with the
>> CAN Bus.
>>
>>

>
>



 
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