Break replacing on XC90

Hello all, I have 5% left on my pads and need to replace them. I have
been quoted at $1100 with parts and labour and found that to be
expensive... The parts are original Volvo so I'm sure that adds a
premium, does anyone have experience or opinions about non OEM
breaks ? also are there other places to get these parts cheaper ?

thanks !

On 11/13/2007 4:50 PM, GS wrote:
> Hello all, I have 5% left on my pads and need to replace them. I have
> been quoted at $1100 with parts and labour and found that to be
> expensive... The parts are original Volvo so I'm sure that adds a
> premium, does anyone have experience or opinions about non OEM
> breaks ? also are there other places to get these parts cheaper ?
>
> thanks !
>
Figure this
Front Pads $90.00
Front Rotors $95.00 X 2
Labor $157.50
Total Front Brakes $437.50

Rear Pads $70.00
Rear Rotors $90.00 X 2
Labor $157.50
Total Rear Brakes $407.50

Total Cost Before Tax $845.00

Front Pads & Labor $170.00
Rear Pads & Labor $150.00
I do not know what else you were quoted but the above prices are what a
dealer whould charge for the repair
If you could let us know what exactly you were told then I may be able
to give you a better estimate of the repairs
Glenn K
Volvo Certified Technician
ASE Certified Technician

--
" Anyone who has never made a mistake has never tried anything new"
-- Albert Einstein

On Nov 13, 4:03 pm, Glenn Klein <Gl...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On 11/13/2007 4:50 PM, GS wrote:> Hello all, I have 5% left on my pads and need to replace them. I have
> > been quoted at $1100 with parts and labour and found that to be
> > expensive... The parts are original Volvo so I'm sure that adds a
> > premium, does anyone have experience or opinions about non OEM
> > breaks ? also are there other places to get these parts cheaper ?
>
> > thanks !
>
> Figure this
> Front Pads $90.00
> Front Rotors $95.00 X 2
> Labor $157.50
> Total Front Brakes $437.50
>
> Rear Pads $70.00
> Rear Rotors $90.00 X 2
> Labor $157.50
> Total Rear Brakes $407.50
>
> Total Cost Before Tax $845.00
>
> Front Pads & Labor $170.00
> Rear Pads & Labor $150.00
> I do not know what else you were quoted but the above prices are what a
> dealer whould charge for the repair
> If you could let us know what exactly you were told then I may be able
> to give you a better estimate of the repairs
> Glenn K
> Volvo Certified Technician
> ASE Certified Technician
>
> --
> " Anyone who has never made a mistake has never tried anything new"
> -- Albert Einstein

Glenn, that makes sense but the quote I got (not from the dealer) also
included calipers at $300... I didnt ask why, probably due to shock,
but I have an appointment at the dealer who didnt think calipers would
be necessary.. they also have the parts so its a quick fix at around
$300+, would there be a need for new calipers on a 04 Volvo ?

In article <(E-Mail Removed). com>,
GS <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>Hello all, I have 5% left on my pads and need to replace them. I have
>been quoted at $1100 with parts and labour and found that to be
>expensive... The parts are original Volvo so I'm sure that adds a
>premium, does anyone have experience or opinions about non OEM
>breaks ? also are there other places to get these parts cheaper ?

Brake pads vary from $53.90 to $70.65 for a front set and $40.26 to
$53.50 for a rear set, depending upon material and the rotor size:

http://www.ipdusa.com/Volvo-XC90/Bra...p-105-593-823/

Rotors are $80 or $89.95 for front (depending on size) and $78.96 for
the rear (each rotor):

http://www.ipdusa.com/Volvo-XC90/Bra...-105-593-1154/

Rotors should not need replacing unless they're badly worn or warped.

If they're not leaking or stuck, calipers should not need replacing
more than once every 10 - 15 years.

The one specialty tool you'd need is less than $5 (brake pads link)
and the grease to prevent noise is also less than $5, same place.

If you replace the rotors, there is a maximum torque spec on them--if
that's exceeded (i.e., impact wrench on maximum) the rotors will warp
quickly.

>thanks !

You're welcome.


Gary

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On 11/13/2007 7:18 PM, GS wrote:
> On Nov 13, 4:03 pm, Glenn Klein <Gl...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> On 11/13/2007 4:50 PM, GS wrote:> Hello all, I have 5% left on my pads and need to replace them. I have
>>> been quoted at $1100 with parts and labour and found that to be
>>> expensive... The parts are original Volvo so I'm sure that adds a
>>> premium, does anyone have experience or opinions about non OEM
>>> breaks ? also are there other places to get these parts cheaper ?
>>> thanks !
>> Figure this
>> Front Pads $90.00
>> Front Rotors $95.00 X 2
>> Labor $157.50
>> Total Front Brakes $437.50
>>
>> Rear Pads $70.00
>> Rear Rotors $90.00 X 2
>> Labor $157.50
>> Total Rear Brakes $407.50
>>
>> Total Cost Before Tax $845.00
>>
>> Front Pads & Labor $170.00
>> Rear Pads & Labor $150.00
>> I do not know what else you were quoted but the above prices are what a
>> dealer whould charge for the repair
>> If you could let us know what exactly you were told then I may be able
>> to give you a better estimate of the repairs
>> Glenn K
>> Volvo Certified Technician
>> ASE Certified Technician
>>
>> --
>> " Anyone who has never made a mistake has never tried anything new"
>> -- Albert Einstein
>
> Glenn, that makes sense but the quote I got (not from the dealer) also
> included calipers at $300... I didnt ask why, probably due to shock,
> but I have an appointment at the dealer who didnt think calipers would
> be necessary.. they also have the parts so its a quick fix at around
> $300+, would there be a need for new calipers on a 04 Volvo ?
>
No there is no need to replace the calipers on a 2004 XC90
also what is the delivery date on your car if purchased anytime in 2004
& less then 50K miles the calipers if faulty should be under warranty
I have been repairing these cars since day 1 & have never replaced a
caliper yet
Glenn K
Volvo Certified Technician
ASE Certified Technician


--
" Anyone who has never made a mistake has never tried anything new"
-- Albert Einstein

"Glenn Klein" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:iXq_i.4029$(E-Mail Removed)...
> On 11/13/2007 4:50 PM, GS wrote:

Glenn,

I don't mean to hijack the breaks thread but I had posted this earlier
hoping you would respond

103,000 miles, engine has developed a "surge" while accelerating. Sometimes
it will go nice and smooth, others it will speed up, die-off, speed up
repeatedly while accelerating. New plugs about 12,000 miles ago, injector
cleaner "Sea Foam" through the fuel tank about 5 fill-ups ago. That seemed
to help a little but it is right back doing the same thing again.

Does this car have a wastegate that needs to be lubed? It feels like the
turbo is spooling up and down. Any suggestions
will be appreciated, I am not really wanting to go to the dealer having just
plunked down $800 for a timing belt change.

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On 11/14/2007 11:21 AM, Allen wrote:
> "Glenn Klein" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:iXq_i.4029$(E-Mail Removed)...
>> On 11/13/2007 4:50 PM, GS wrote:
>
> Glenn,
>
> I don't mean to hijack the breaks thread but I had posted this earlier
> hoping you would respond
>
> 103,000 miles, engine has developed a "surge" while accelerating. Sometimes
> it will go nice and smooth, others it will speed up, die-off, speed up
> repeatedly while accelerating. New plugs about 12,000 miles ago, injector
> cleaner "Sea Foam" through the fuel tank about 5 fill-ups ago. That seemed
> to help a little but it is right back doing the same thing again.
>
> Does this car have a wastegate that needs to be lubed? It feels like the
> turbo is spooling up and down. Any suggestions
> will be appreciated, I am not really wanting to go to the dealer having just
> plunked down $800 for a timing belt change.
>
Have you had Recall 155 performed Electronic Throttle Software Upgrade
this usually takes care of a uneven idle or there could be other
problems the only correct way is to have any DTC'S read from the car
G Klein

--
" Anyone who has never made a mistake has never tried anything new"
-- Albert Einstein

"Glenn Klein" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
newslM_i.49$(E-Mail Removed)...
> On 11/14/2007 11:21 AM, Allen wrote:
> > "Glenn Klein" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > news:iXq_i.4029$(E-Mail Removed)...
> >> On 11/13/2007 4:50 PM, GS wrote:
> >
> > Glenn,
> >
> > I don't mean to hijack the breaks thread but I had posted this earlier
> > hoping you would respond
> >
> > 103,000 miles, engine has developed a "surge" while accelerating.
Sometimes
> > it will go nice and smooth, others it will speed up, die-off, speed up
> > repeatedly while accelerating. New plugs about 12,000 miles ago,
injector
> > cleaner "Sea Foam" through the fuel tank about 5 fill-ups ago. That
seemed
> > to help a little but it is right back doing the same thing again.
> >
> > Does this car have a wastegate that needs to be lubed? It feels like
the
> > turbo is spooling up and down. Any suggestions
> > will be appreciated, I am not really wanting to go to the dealer having
just
> > plunked down $800 for a timing belt change.
> >
> Have you had Recall 155 performed Electronic Throttle Software Upgrade
> this usually takes care of a uneven idle or there could be other
> problems the only correct way is to have any DTC'S read from the car
> G Klein
>
> --
> " Anyone who has never made a mistake has never tried anything new"
> -- Albert Einstein

Thank you for responding Glenn! I just had the timing belt changed <1,000
miles ago by the Volvo dealer in Irving, TX who has done most of the work on
the car. I asked them to bring everything up to date at that time. They
told me everything was good, all recalls had been complied with. The car
idles smoothly and constant RPM. Fuel economy is good, 23 MPG in town,
27MPG highway. I will call and verify that it has been done.

The car will pull real strong and then die off almost like a poppet valve
were opening, then power on again. Or perhaps the turbo spooling up and
down, thaat's why I ask about a wastegate. All this while holding the
accelerator in the same position.

-- --
*H. Allen Smith*

WACO - We are all here, because we are not all there.

On 11/14/2007 7:51 PM, Allen wrote:
> "Glenn Klein" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> newslM_i.49$(E-Mail Removed)...
>> On 11/14/2007 11:21 AM, Allen wrote:
>>> "Glenn Klein" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>> news:iXq_i.4029$(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>> On 11/13/2007 4:50 PM, GS wrote:
>>> Glenn,
>>>
>>> I don't mean to hijack the breaks thread but I had posted this earlier
>>> hoping you would respond
>>>
>>> 103,000 miles, engine has developed a "surge" while accelerating.
> Sometimes
>>> it will go nice and smooth, others it will speed up, die-off, speed up
>>> repeatedly while accelerating. New plugs about 12,000 miles ago,
> injector
>>> cleaner "Sea Foam" through the fuel tank about 5 fill-ups ago. That
> seemed
>>> to help a little but it is right back doing the same thing again.
>>>
>>> Does this car have a wastegate that needs to be lubed? It feels like
> the
>>> turbo is spooling up and down. Any suggestions
>>> will be appreciated, I am not really wanting to go to the dealer having
> just
>>> plunked down $800 for a timing belt change.
>>>
>> Have you had Recall 155 performed Electronic Throttle Software Upgrade
>> this usually takes care of a uneven idle or there could be other
>> problems the only correct way is to have any DTC'S read from the car
>> G Klein
>>
>> --
>> " Anyone who has never made a mistake has never tried anything new"
>> -- Albert Einstein
>
> Thank you for responding Glenn! I just had the timing belt changed <1,000
> miles ago by the Volvo dealer in Irving, TX who has done most of the work on
> the car. I asked them to bring everything up to date at that time. They
> told me everything was good, all recalls had been complied with. The car
> idles smoothly and constant RPM. Fuel economy is good, 23 MPG in town,
> 27MPG highway. I will call and verify that it has been done.
>
> The car will pull real strong and then die off almost like a poppet valve
> were opening, then power on again. Or perhaps the turbo spooling up and
> down, thaat's why I ask about a wastegate. All this while holding the
> accelerator in the same position.
>
> -- --
> *H. Allen Smith*
>
> WACO - We are all here, because we are not all there.
>
>
Without actually road testing the car it sounds like the ETM=Electric
Throttle Module may be going south this is covered under warranty until
200K miles
Glenn K

--
" Anyone who has never made a mistake has never tried anything new"
-- Albert Einstein

"Glenn Klein" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:RUM_i.56$(E-Mail Removed)...
> On 11/14/2007 7:51 PM, Allen wrote:
> > "Glenn Klein" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > newslM_i.49$(E-Mail Removed)...
> >> On 11/14/2007 11:21 AM, Allen wrote:
> >>> "Glenn Klein" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> >>> news:iXq_i.4029$(E-Mail Removed)...
> >>>> On 11/13/2007 4:50 PM, GS wrote:
> >>> Glenn,
> >>>
> >>> I don't mean to hijack the breaks thread but I had posted this earlier
> >>> hoping you would respond
> >>>
> >>> 103,000 miles, engine has developed a "surge" while accelerating.
> > Sometimes
> >>> it will go nice and smooth, others it will speed up, die-off, speed up
> >>> repeatedly while accelerating. New plugs about 12,000 miles ago,
> > injector
> >>> cleaner "Sea Foam" through the fuel tank about 5 fill-ups ago. That
> > seemed
> >>> to help a little but it is right back doing the same thing again.
> >>>
> >>> Does this car have a wastegate that needs to be lubed? It feels like
> > the
> >>> turbo is spooling up and down. Any suggestions
> >>> will be appreciated, I am not really wanting to go to the dealer
having
> > just
> >>> plunked down $800 for a timing belt change.
> >>>
> >> Have you had Recall 155 performed Electronic Throttle Software Upgrade
> >> this usually takes care of a uneven idle or there could be other
> >> problems the only correct way is to have any DTC'S read from the car
> >> G Klein
> >>
> >> --
> >> " Anyone who has never made a mistake has never tried anything new"
> >> -- Albert Einstein
> >
> > Thank you for responding Glenn! I just had the timing belt changed
<1,000
> > miles ago by the Volvo dealer in Irving, TX who has done most of the
work on
> > the car. I asked them to bring everything up to date at that time.
They
> > told me everything was good, all recalls had been complied with. The
car
> > idles smoothly and constant RPM. Fuel economy is good, 23 MPG in town,
> > 27MPG highway. I will call and verify that it has been done.
> >
> > The car will pull real strong and then die off almost like a poppet
valve
> > were opening, then power on again. Or perhaps the turbo spooling up and
> > down, thaat's why I ask about a wastegate. All this while holding the
> > accelerator in the same position.
> >
> > -- --
> > *H. Allen Smith*
> >
> > WACO - We are all here, because we are not all there.
> >
> >
> Without actually road testing the car it sounds like the ETM=Electric
> Throttle Module may be going south this is covered under warranty until
> 200K miles
> Glenn K
>
> --
> " Anyone who has never made a mistake has never tried anything new"
> -- Albert Einstein

Thanks again Glenn, I guess it is another trip to the dealer. I appreciate
your help!

--
*H. Allen Smith*
WACO - We are all here, because we are not all there.