1987 volvo 244 DL idles fine, stutters and backfires at highwaycruise speed

Discussion in 'Volvo 240' started by Alex Bonne, Dec 8, 2009.

  1. Alex Bonne

    Alex Bonne Guest

    Symptoms as described above: At idle, the car sounds and behaves fine.
    No problem starting. However yesterday at highway cruise, momentary
    loss of power occured at irregular intervals, accompanied by
    occasional backfires.Power loss duration was from split second to up
    to 20 sec.
    About 2 weeks back, the Smog check mechanic stated that the hoses to
    the evaporation canister are cracking. He also adjusted the timing by
    several degrees, making what I thought to be an occasionally rough
    idle.
    4 yrs ago, I replaced the failed original air mass meter.

    Could the problems described above be from the evaporation canister
    hoses being more severely cracked? What is the function of the evap
    canister during highway-speed cruising?

    My first suspicions are for air mass meter, but the fact that cracked
    hoses exist on the evap canister make me want to understand that
    system better.
    Any help appreciated!
     
    Alex Bonne, Dec 8, 2009
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  2. IT STUTTERS BECAUSE YOU PUT THE STEERING WHEEL ON THE LEFT SIDE WHERE AS IT
    SHOULD BE ON THE RIGHT .Clean every thing including the idling motor control
    thingo it get gummed up .Its under the intake manifold with simple
    electrical connections and hoses coming out of it .I swirl cleaning fluid in
    it and make sure its free of grit .Its is like a motor inside but only turns
    a bit to allow air correction .Hoses are a must cheap and simple the
    evaporator cleans the hydro carbons out of the air back into the mixture
    rather than vent them out side .My Volvo is 12 degrees before top dead
    centre ,which is correct .Maybe your is different but make sure hes not far
    from the mark as it ruins the preformance .
     
    Jon Robertson, Dec 9, 2009
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  3. Alex Bonne

    James Sweet Guest


    Has the outside of the harmonic balancer spun on the rubber damper? That
    can make the timing way off when the mark shows it to be just right.

    '87 is also one of the years with the biodegradable engine wiring
    harness, I've had to replace several of those, the car will never be
    dependable with the original harness, the insulation crumbles all over.
    I rebuilt a few by splicing in all new wires from near the firewall to
    all the connectors since the cars broke down.
     
    James Sweet, Dec 9, 2009
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  4. Alex Bonne

    Alex Bonne Guest

    Thank you for the input; I'll check the timing again, perhaps with a
    better mechanic than I am. Also tonight in a more diligent inspection
    of the engine, I found the hose between the evap canister and the
    intake manifold was completely severed. Bought a new length, and will
    install it shortly.
    The idling motor control you mention: do I need to remove it to clean
    it, or can it be cleaned in-situ?
     
    Alex Bonne, Dec 9, 2009
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  5. Alex Bonne

    Alex Bonne Guest

    Thank you for the hints! I'll check the wiring for cracks.
    How would I tell if the harmonic balancer has spun? Is there another
    reference for comparison? Not too familiar with this one...
     
    Alex Bonne, Dec 9, 2009
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  6. Alex Bonne

    Mr. V Guest

    Mr. V, Dec 9, 2009
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  7. Alex Bonne

    James Sweet Guest


    Yeah definitely replace any cracked hoses, those aren't helping anything.

    You might be able to clean the IAC valve in place but you'll save
    yourself time and headaches by removing it, there's only two bolts to
    loosen, a couple of hose clamps and an electrical connector.
     
    James Sweet, Dec 10, 2009
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  8. Alex Bonne

    James Sweet Guest


    You can set the engine to TDC by looking at the mark on the cam pulley
    which you can see if you remove the screw at the top of the timing belt
    cover and pull the cover away a bit. With it lined up with the mark on
    the backing plate the mark on the crank pulley should line up with the 0
    mark on the lower cover.
     
    James Sweet, Dec 10, 2009
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