2005 XC90 alloy wheels rusted to rotor

Discussion in 'Volvo XC90' started by Mike, Apr 1, 2007.

  1. Mike

    Mike Guest

    I tried to rotate the tires on our 2006 XC90 V8 (alloy wheels) and just
    about wore myself out and bent 3 screwdrivers trying to hammer the wheels
    off the hub. What a nightmare.

    Turns out they were corroded onto the hub between the alloy wheel hole in
    the center, and the cast iron lip on the rotor. It's normally a very tight
    fit anyway, and the salt water (and regular water) got between the two.
    Evidently created a galvanic corrosion that caused such a tight fit it was
    nearly impossible to remove the wheels. It took a lot of hammering with a
    big screwdriver between the alloy wheel and the rotor (using the spaces
    between the alloy wheel spokes to get access to the mating surfaces between
    the alloy wheel and the cast iron rotor).

    When I FINALLY got the wheels off (they VERY slowly loosened up), I scraped
    off the corrosion on both the cast iron rotor lip and the inside surface of
    the hole in the center of the alloy wheel. Then I applied a coating of
    Permatex Anti-Seize grease so that the wheels will be easier to remove next
    time.

    To me this is an outright Volvo design flaw. Essentially the assembly of
    the two parts became a battery - two dissimilar metals (aluminum alloy rim
    and cast iron rotor) and an electrolyte (water/salt water). All are a
    recipe for tolerance-busting corrosion.

    Anyone else encounter this problem? Does Volvo have a fix?

    Thanks,

    Mike
     
    Mike, Apr 1, 2007
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  2. I can say it is a fairly common problem for late model cars. The same
    question comes up fairly regularly in the Honda forum, where the hub-centric
    wheels practically weld onto the car. Your approach is the right one;
    antiseize on the mating areas and on the area where the lug nuts clamp the
    wheel down.

    The recommended method for loosening the wheels in extreme cases (yours sure
    qualified!) is to loosen the lug nuts and drive gently a few yards, turning
    one way and the other, until the bond breaks. It can be too strong even for
    hammers and pry bars.

    Mike
     
    Michael Pardee, Apr 1, 2007
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  3. Mike

    James Sweet Guest


    What prevents this from happening on older cars? I've never had a
    problem with it myself, I suspect a coating of any sort of grease on the
    mating surfaces would prevent it from happening though. I don't see much
    difference in the hub and rim design between modern cars and 20+ year
    old cars.
     
    James Sweet, Apr 1, 2007
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  4. Mike

    Shawn Guest

    My 01 V70XC did the same thing. I use a hydraulic floor jack for tire
    rotations and simply loosen the lug nuts about one full turn from tight.
    With the wheel jacked up, I drop it kinda quickly and it will pop loose. A
    light coating of grease on all dissimilar and touching metals has caused me
    to do this only once.

    Shawn
     
    Shawn, Apr 1, 2007
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  5. I don't know. My daughter's '93 Accord doesn't have the corrosion problem,
    but we don't use road salt here, either. People in the Honda forum report
    having to clear away corrosion on the interface in slightly older cars, but
    I can't say I've seen it affecting the really old ones. You'd think it would
    be more troublesome as years went by too, no?

    Mike
     
    Michael Pardee, Apr 1, 2007
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  6. Mike

    JRE Guest

    This happens to all sorts of cars. When I bring home new ones, I remove
    the wheels and apply anti-seize the first day. Beats being stuck by the
    side of the road (in the cold, dark, and rain, usually ;-) unable to get
    the wheel off.

    I think this is not a design flaw, but intentional. Much of the force
    applied to the wheel gets fed directly to the hub this way rather than
    the lug studs/bolts.

    There is an easier way to break them loose, by the way. Loosen the lug
    bolts/nuts and back the car up. Stop suddenly. Repeat until the wheel
    is loose. Don't overdo it--you don't want to bend the lug bolts/studs.

    JRE
     
    JRE, Apr 8, 2007
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  7. Mike

    Roadie Guest

    Volvo is far from the first car maker to have corrosion between two
    dissilimar metals. It's a fact of nature. The fix is regular rotation
    every 5,000 miles or so of the wheels and application of a grease of
    some kind.
     
    Roadie, Apr 8, 2007
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  8. Mike

    Mike Guest

    Thanks to all who responded.

    I really like the idea several folks replied with - undo each lug slightly
    (1 turn max) and roll a few yards back and forth, braking suddenly to jar
    the hub loose if needed.

    I did get them off and I did apply a coat of Permatex Anti Seize grease.
    The silvery stuff.

    I have another newer car with alloy rims - I'll be doing the same grease job
    with them when I swap over to summer tires from winter rims.

    Thanks again,

    Mike
     
    Mike, Apr 9, 2007
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