'92 240GL No Instrument lights

Discussion in 'Volvo 240' started by James Sassman, Feb 26, 2008.

  1. Specifically, these are the lights that illiminate the clock, speedometer
    and engine temp, fuel tank gauges behind the steering wheel.
    One day they worked. The next day, none of them worked.
    There were a couple burned out for a long time--since I acquired the car 7
    or 8 years ago. These were for the fuel and engine temp. gauges.
    Looking at the fuse guide, it says nothing about a separate fuse for
    instrument lights.

    Any ideas?
     
    James Sassman, Feb 26, 2008
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  2. James  Sassman

    James Sweet Guest


    Did the dimmer knob get turned down all the way? It's easy to do while
    trying to set the clock. This also dims the lights that illuminate the
    center console switches and heater controls. If those work, then the other
    bulb in the instrument cluster burned out, there's only two of them and
    they're not difficult to replace. All you need is a philips screwdriver to
    remove the screws that hold the cluster in and slide that out enough to get
    a hand behind it, only takes 15 minutes or so.
     
    James Sweet, Feb 26, 2008
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  3. Okay, thanks for the information. Since there are only two bulbs, the other
    one must have burned out causing no light in the cluster.

    Where are the philips screws located to remove the cluster?
     
    James Sassman, Feb 27, 2008
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  4. James  Sassman

    James Sweet Guest

    Pull the knobs off the headlight switch and the dimmer, use your fingernail,
    a coin, or similar object to carefully pry the fascia around those knobs, it
    just pops out, then do the same with the gauge bezels or blank plates on the
    other side of the cluster. Remove the two screws holding the cover on the
    top of the steering column and lift off the cover, then remove the two
    screws on either side of the cluster. Remove the metal bracket that sits
    over the headlight switch shaft and then pull the cluster straight out.
    Since yours is newer than '85, it is all electrical and does not have a
    speedo cable to mess with so it should pull out enough that you can get to
    the bulbs. They twist counter-clockwise and pop out.
     
    James Sweet, Feb 27, 2008
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  5. Is there a bulb number to ask for at the auto parts store? It would be great
    to have them in hand once the necessary components are removed.

    Thank you so much for the precise instructions! Looks like it will be a
    great project for one of the warmer days coming up.
     
    James Sassman, Feb 27, 2008
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  6. James  Sassman

    James Sweet Guest

    It should be listed in your owners manual. They're ordinary wedge based
    automotive bulbs, I can't think of anywhere else in the car they're used,
    but a lot of domestic cars use them for side marker lights.
     
    James Sweet, Feb 27, 2008
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    mjc13 Guest

    James Sweet wrote:
    (...)
    I'm only 90% sure, but I believe that our '88 240DL had a speedo
    cable. I remember thinking that the plastic locking tab on it looked
    damaged, but it worked ok.
     
    mjc13, Feb 28, 2008
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  8. James  Sassman

    James Sweet Guest


    '86 and later 240s were all electric, the transmissions don't even have the
    place for the speedo cable to connect. You must be thinking of a different
    car unless someone converted it. This is assuming also North America, who
    knows how it was done in other parts of the world, Volvo had some funny
    regional differences.
     
    James Sweet, Feb 28, 2008
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  9. Just picked up a pack of two bulbs from a local auto parts dealer.
    They looked like the right size. The number is 2821 with (W3W) underneath.
    However, that same dealer's website shows 2721 to be the correct size. But
    when I saw the package, the bulb was too small. It reminded me of the
    automatic transmission backlight in my '84 240DL wagon. A smallish, wedge
    type bulb, only 1/2 inch long and approximately 1/4 inch around.

    I can't seem to get the bulbs out of the sockets to examine the size of the
    base, but the ones I have in the package, 2821, seem to big.

    And one note: the screws holding the instrument panel in place are all torx
    head screws.
     
    James Sassman, Feb 28, 2008
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  10. James  Sassman

    James Sweet Guest


    Oh, I'd forgotten about that, '90 or '91 Volvo changed to Torx. Great if you
    have the Torx bits, but it can be a hassle if you don't.

    I think some of the later cars had the bulbs glued into the plastic base
    things as well, if that's the case and you can't get them out, you might
    have to hit up the dealer. They are bigger than the bulbs used to backlight
    the switches and such, which are also used in the optional gauges that
    install to the right of the cluster.
     
    James Sweet, Feb 28, 2008
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  11. Have the bulbs in sockets removed. The bulbs are stuck in the sockets and
    cannot be removed. Must have been made that way.
    I ordered replacements from FCP Groton for $ 1 each plus shipping. The
    Volvo, OEM's are $ 8.
    Thanks for your help!
     
    James Sassman, Feb 29, 2008
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  12. Oh, I'd forgotten about that, '90 or '91 Volvo changed to Torx. Great if
    Got the bulbs from FCP Groton, installed and have full light in the
    instrument panel for the first time since I purchased on Ebay 8 years ago!
    Now looking to replace the lights behind the heater buttons for floor,
    defrost and recirculate. Hope that is not such a challenge--been a long time
    since I have removed the center dash area.
     
    James Sassman, Mar 14, 2008
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  13. James  Sassman

    James Sweet Guest


    There's a screw on each side up near the dash, a twist clip on each side
    down low, and two screws under the lower radio/storage compartment in front
    of the gear shift. Pull it straight out, taking care not to pull wires off
    the switches. As I recall, there's 3 bulbs back there, one on the fan
    switch, one on the heater control, and one up above illuminating the rocker
    switches.
     
    James Sweet, Mar 14, 2008
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    mjc13 Guest

    It isn't too bad a job. They are just light bulbs in wired holders
    that fit into holes in the back of the panel. I mixed mine up when
    reinstalling them, and it didn't much matter.
     
    mjc13, Mar 14, 2008
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  15. Have replaced the instrument cluster lights.
    Now replaced bulbs in center console behind the defrost/recirculate/floor
    button but cannot find the correct socket
    to insert it back into. Where is that located?
    Thanks1
     
    James Sassman, Apr 2, 2008
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