Automatic transmission - how does it work?

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by jimsunz, Jan 4, 2005.

  1. jimsunz

    jimsunz Guest

    I am a very practical person, and am familar with engines and manual
    gearboxes/clutches. But automatic transmission is a new ball game to
    me.

    Can one of you guys explain how an automatic works. Are there clutch
    plates to wear out? How does it know when to change gear?

    ps. I managed to successful fit the kit cruise control on my 740
    automatic, taking the pulses from 3 magnets and pickup coil on the
    prop shaft.
    Absolutely magic!on this my first automatic transmission car.
    Delighted to find out that one can press the resume button at say
    15-20 miles per hour and it goes up thro' the gears to the preselected
    cruising speed.
    I've lost count of how many cars this kit cruise control has been on,
    and it is still in working order.
     
    jimsunz, Jan 4, 2005
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  2. Start here:

    http://auto.howstuffworks.com/automatic-transmission.htm

    Typically, an autobox will use an epicyclic gear set, sometimes called
    planetary gear. But there have, over the years, been various other
    arrangements. I'm not up on the lastest developements, but I would
    imagine that computer control and 'fly-by-wire' engine management is
    set to revolutionise (ahem!) transmission systems.

    Most conventional autoboxes do have friction surfaces of some sort to
    control the changes - old ones would have brake bands, but modern ones
    have a type of clutch. These are used to control which parts of the
    gear set are able to rotate. They differ from the conventional clutch
    that you find on a car, in that they are immersed in oil, so wear is
    minimal, to the extent that you can expect an autobox, with proper
    care, to achieve 200k miles. Usually they outlast the car, but with
    Volvo's reputation for high mileage this can become an issue.

    The link between engine and gearbox is most often by a torque
    converter, (also called a fluid flywheel, though in the strictest
    sense this is not necessarily correct), which is detailed here:

    http://auto.howstuffworks.com/torque-converter.htm

    One of the most unlikey arrangements I came across was by Renault,
    probably around the late 50s or early 60s. They used a conventional
    gearbox with some sort of rams to effect the gear changes (I can't
    remember what controlled them). Instead of a clutch, they had a drum
    filled with iron filings bolted to the flywheel. The output shaft to
    the gearbox was finned, and the drive was engaged by passing a current
    through a coil round the outside of the drum, to magnetise the iron
    filings. I think history tells us that this can't have been a success.
    --

    Stewart Hargrave


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    Stewart Hargrave, Jan 4, 2005
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  3. The first ones made by Oldsmobile and were like a clutch where the
    plates never touched. There was a viscous fluid that transfered force
    between the plates. Then they went to hydraulic pump designs. The
    newer ones all have several things in common. They need engine rpm
    sensors of some sort and speed sensors of some sort. They can change
    their ratios depending upon load and speed.
    They need the ability to slip when stopped and to lock up at cruising
    speed. Check the following for details:

    http://www.familycar.com/transmission.htm
     
    Stephen Henning, Jan 5, 2005
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  4. jimsunz

    Bonnet Lock Guest

    In an earlier contribution to this discussion,

    Have a look at the service notes for a Borg-Warner 35 transmission, as
    fitted to a Triumph 2000 about 30 years ago
    http://www.200025pi.co.uk/lucas/greenbook/borgwarner/borgwarner.htm

    It gives a good idea of the principle of operation.

    More modern transmissions have more gears and electronic (rather than
    hydraulic) control logic - but they still have a torque converter and
    several cascaded sets of epicyclic gears. Some have lock-out clutches in
    parallel with the torque converter to eliminate slip in the cruise
    condition.

    Gear change points are a function of both speed and throttle position - so
    at high throttle openings, they hang on to the lower gears for longer - boy
    racer style!
     
    Bonnet Lock, Jan 5, 2005
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  5. The Magnetic Clutch was also used by NSU in their Ro80 car. The three-speed
    automatic transmission was engaged/disengaged by light pressure on the gear
    knob which operated the electric current for the Magnetic Clutch which
    allowed the transmission to work. The three ratios used were 0 to 40mph, 0
    to 80mph and 0 to 120mph.

    Cheers, Peter.
     
    Peter K L Milnes, Jan 5, 2005
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