Crankshaft damper pulley came loose!

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Jimbo, Jul 20, 2004.

  1. Jimbo

    Jimbo Guest

    It is a 89 Volvo 240 GL. Car overheated, had electrical problem, and the
    power steering quit all at once. Found that the triple-crankshaft pulley (It
    is called a damper pulley, I think?) that drives all the accessories had
    come loose from the crankshaft! The engine still runs, but is not turning
    the crankshaft pully. When it came loose, one of the belts was putting a
    sideways force on it, so the crankshaft (continuing to turn) wallered out a
    section of the pulley inner surface (only on one side of its circumference),
    resulting in the pulley being found sitting on the crankshaft at an angle of
    about 20 deg. off the straight axis. But suprisingly ( I guess the
    crankshaft is a harder material?), the crankshaft itself *appears*
    undamaged. When I removed the loose pulley, it was obvious how this could
    happen....there is no key or set screw, it was apparently just press-fitted
    on!
    Now I am really screwed, as I can't see how I could ever get a new
    pulley securely press-fitted on when it is right up next to the fan and
    radiator. And even if I lifted the engine out of the car so that I could
    really wack it on hard with a mallet, it would still be likely to come loose
    again. Why is there no square key on the shaft to positively lock it on?
    Also, there is nothing to set the timing mark at the proper place when the
    new pulley is installed.
    Can I maybe buy a pulley for this car that has a set-screw, that
    secures to a threaded hole drilled into the crankshaft? But then I would
    have to have the car towed to a garage to have this done, as drilling and
    tapping a hole in the crankshaft end is probably more than I should try to
    do myself. Advice? I need to get it fixed very soon. Thanks, Jim
     
    Jimbo, Jul 20, 2004
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  2. Jimbo

    G Klein Guest

    The crankshaft pulley does have a notch cut out so it lines up with the
    crankshaft
    You have to remove the cooling fan to gain access to perform this repair
    Yes there is a bolt that holds the pulley in to the crankshaft & if it is
    not tightened to the correct torque setting it will become loose make sure
    that the bolt did not Break Off in the crankshaft. If you are unable to find
    a notch on the crankshaft pulley that is on the car you will have to replace
    the crankshaft Gear
    Post back & will Try to help further
    Glenn

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    nor should any American.
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    G Klein, Jul 20, 2004
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  3. Jimbo

    Jimbo Guest

    Hi GLenn! I looked at the damper pulley again. As I said there is NO bolt,
    or even any bolt-hole on it. It would have to be at the bottom of one of the
    three belt grooves, wouldn't it? (well, that would be for something like a
    set-screw) There is no way it was ever locked on. The day before this
    happened, I had replaced the alternator, and I could have gotten the belt
    more tight than it really should be. I have felt all around the
    circumference of the front of the crankshaft that the pully was mounted on,
    and it is smooth like a hardened crankshaft should be, and there is no bolt
    hole. There is a V-groove in the middle going around its
    circumference....but not any axial groove such as you would have for a
    square key. So there is NOTHING to positively secure the new pulley to the
    shaft. I guess I will go ahead and order a new pulley and go from there.
    Then I will see what sort of bolt securing device it has. Glenn, this is
    probably something that is special order from Autozone. Is there some
    internet co. that can supply one quickly?
     
    Jimbo, Jul 21, 2004
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  4. Jimbo

    Mike F Guest

    I think that your pulley is broken. There is an inner part held to the
    end of the crank with that big bolt in the center. There is a layer of
    rubber, then the outer part where the belts ride. I think you have the
    outer half in your hand, the inner half is still on the crankshaft. Go
    to http://www.thepartsbin.com (or your favourite online supplier) and
    look up the crankshaft pulley for your car and you can see a picture of
    what you get.

    --
    Mike F.
    Thornhill (near Toronto), Ont.

    NOTE: new address!!
    Replace tt with t (twice!) and remove parentheses to email me directly.
    (But I check the newsgroup more often than this email address.)
     
    Mike F, Jul 21, 2004
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  5. Jimbo

    Rod Gray Guest

    The pully should be bolted on.
     
    Rod Gray, Jul 22, 2004
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  6. Jimbo

    Jimbo Guest

    Yea, there is an outer part of the pulley bonded to an inner part by rubber.
    Not a trace of the rubber was left on either part! Once I jacked the car and
    looked at the crankshaft end from underneath, I could then see that big bolt
    holding on the inner part. Thanks all. Jim
     
    Jimbo, Jul 22, 2004
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  7. This recently happened to my brother in law in his Astron II Mitsubishi.
    New part was near 400 dollars, wreckers had one for 33. Easy enough job on
    that though we had to unbolt and lower the motor to get the new pulley on.
    Next time it happens, could easily be knocked over in 30 minutes, though
    took us a while longer and we dropped the motor slowly down as we no where
    near a workshop and had to work on it on uneven ground.

    Hammo
     
    Hamish Alker-Jones, Jul 23, 2004
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  8. Jimbo

    Jimbo Guest

    BTW, with a 3/8 ratchet and 15/16 deep socket, I was able to get the bolt
    out and the inner part of the damper pulley off, easily without removing
    either the fan or radiator. The ratchet was scraping against the fan shroud
    a little, but it worked.
     
    Jimbo, Jul 23, 2004
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