Ford selling Volvo?

Discussion in 'Volvo Parts For Sale / Trade' started by c.fiedler, May 26, 2007.

  1. c.fiedler

    c.fiedler Guest

    I read this morning that BMW is in talks with Ford to buy Volvo. Both
    Ford and BMW had no comment.

    Chuck Fiedler
    Nothing but Volvo since 1974
     
    c.fiedler, May 26, 2007
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  2. Ford is looking to sell of all it's European makes to generate some
    cash. It is in bad trouble. It stopped making its cash cow the Taurus
    and introduced the Five Hundred which was still born beside the fact it
    was a good car. Now they are rebadging the Five Hundred as the Taurus.
    Detroit is in the business of selling images, not vehicles.

    By the way,according to the labels on the car doors that list "percent
    of parts made in the US, the most American "cars" are:

    1. Ford F-150* Dearborn, Mich.; Kansas City, Mo.; Norfolk, Va. 1
    2. Toyota Camry**, Camry Solara Georgetown, Ky. 3
    3. Chevrolet Silverado 1500* Fort Wayne, Ind.; Pontiac, Mich. 2
    4. Chevrolet Cobalt Lordstown, Ohio 5
    5. Ford Explorer, Explorer Sport Trac Louisville, Ky.; St. Louis 6
    6. Chevrolet Malibu, Malibu Maxx Kansas City, Kan. 7
    7. Chevrolet TrailBlazer* Moraine, Ohio 10
    8. Toyota Sienna Princeton, Ind. 9
    9. Pontiac G6 Orion, Mich. --
    10.Ford Escape** Kansas City, Mo. 8

    *Rankings based on estimated sales breakouts and/or production data;
    TrailBlazer excludes discontinued TrailBlazer EXT.
    **Excludes hybrid.

    However, this does not distinguish between US and Canadian content.

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    VA?section=top&story=amMade1206&subject=more&referer=&aff=national>

    Here are some makes that are NOT considered "American Made"

    # Chevrolet Equinox
    # Chevrolet HHR
    # Chevrolet Impala
    # Chevrolet Tahoe
    # Chrysler 300
    # Chrysler PT Cruiser
    # Dodge Charger
    # Ford Focus
    # Ford Fusion
    # Ford Mustang

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    Stephen Henning, May 26, 2007
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  3. I have got the impression, that selling images is what is the main business of
    every big company nowadays. Product quality and customer satisfaction are
    definitely secondary or tertiary issues.

    Viktor
     
    viktor weisshaeupl, May 26, 2007
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    Roger Mills Guest

    In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
    I sincerely hope not - look what happened to Rover when BMW bought it!
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    Roger Mills, May 26, 2007
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    Sakari Ailus Guest

    OTOH, there could be RWD Volvos again. ;) 8-]
     
    Sakari Ailus, May 26, 2007
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    James Sweet Guest

    What happened to it? Could the build quality really have gotten much worse?
     
    James Sweet, May 26, 2007
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    Roger Mills Guest

    In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
    Well they didn't produce any RWD Rovers during their ownership!
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    Roger Mills, May 26, 2007
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  8. Here is more on this:

    Built at the Ingersoll plant in Ontario, Canada, the 2006 Chevrolet
    Equinox could be the most un-American ³American² car on the road.
    Consider that, in addition to its assembly north of the border, the
    Equinox has a China-built V6 engine.

    GM says that the 2006 Chevrolet HHR was inspired by the 1949 Suburban.
    We wonder whether they built that SUV in Ramos Arizpe, Mexico as well.

    The much-improved Impala, with more room and comfortable seats plus an
    attractive style is Canadian.

    The Tahoe debuted early this year to brisk sales, and may even find
    itself as a serious contender for Truck of the Year. That¹s the good
    news, along with the fact that it¹s built in Arlington, Texas and
    Janesville, Wisconsin. Ah but the things they put inside, only 67
    percent come from US-based suppliers.

    The Chrysler 300, only the most well-received new sedan Chrysler has put
    out in years from critics and consumers alike is about as American as
    a Moose. Built in Brampton, Ontario, the 300 also gets just 72 percent
    of its parts from US suppliers.

    Built in Toluca, Mexico, the PT Cruiser was updated in 2006.

    Like its brother, the Chrysler 300, the Dodge Charger is itself a big
    buff Canadian that borrows its legacy from an American icon.

    Built in the US but made of only 60 percent American parts, the Focus
    could be considered at least ³near American.²

    As the flag-waver for Ford¹s newest rallying cry, ³Red, White and Bold,²
    it¹s interesting that the 2006 Ford Fusion is more a hue of green, white
    and red, signifying its Mexican birthplace. Or maybe it¹s more red and
    white, symbolizing its Mazda/Japanese roots.

    According to the Act, cars must be made of 75 percent US parts, and the
    Mustang registers at a paltry 65 percent, Canada included. At least
    it¹s still assembled in Michigan.

    Consider, though, that if you want to buy a more American car than the
    Mustang the Mustang -- try the Camry, the Accord, the Avalon, the
    Corolla
     
    Stephen Henning, May 26, 2007
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  9. Oh I do hope so. Perhaps somebody will make progressive Volvos instead
    of ridiculous pastiches with most of the old values sapped out.
     
    Richard Polhill, May 27, 2007
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  10. I wont drive german cars so if this is true thats the end of my love affair
    with Volvos, except those built previous to any possible takeover .
    Just as a matter of interest would a volvo bmw have no indicators as it
    seems bmw indicators dont seem to work ever ?
     
    John Robertson, May 27, 2007
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  11. What a strange idea.
    By Ford?
     
    Richard Polhill, May 27, 2007
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    Roger Mills Guest

    In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
    Dunno - but hopefully they'd have no daytime running lights!
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    Roger Mills, May 27, 2007
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  13. Is a car that is designed in Sweden and built in Sweden and Belgium,
    with Japanese transmissions, German. I don't think so. I don't think
    the present Volvo is American either. Ford's only contribution was
    adding the V-8 engines which I avoid like the plague.
     
    Stephen Henning, May 27, 2007
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    John Horner Guest

    In my fantasy world a Swedish industrialist would buy Saab and Volvo and
    turn them into great companies with a strong Scandinavian viewpoint.
    Not going to happen, but would be nice.
     
    John Horner, May 27, 2007
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    volvo480 Guest

    Steve, what is wrong with the Yamaha V8 ? I have never read anything bad
    about the engine, apart from the fuel consumption, Rob
     
    volvo480, May 27, 2007
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    mdrawson Guest

    Too bad you feel as you do about the V8. We have one (XC90) and it's
    incredible --- great power, very reliable, and decent gas mileage (24MPG
    highway, which is better than the 3.2 6cyl XC90 that we drove --- the V8
    prob doesn't have to work as hard). My understanding was that the V8 was
    not made in US but in China or Japan or some such. At any rate, we love it
    and would buy another. 'Bout time Volvo did a V8.
     
    mdrawson, May 27, 2007
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    John Horner Guest


    Made in Japan by Yamaha. It is a further development of the engine
    design Yamaha used to build for the Ford Taurus SHO.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Yamaha_V8_engine
     
    John Horner, May 28, 2007
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    Vanja Guest

    I hope BMW will suceed :)
     
    Vanja, May 28, 2007
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    John Horner Guest


    BMW would be a far better owner for Volvo than Ford is, I think. But
    one must wonder what exactly BMW wants with Volvo? Perhaps as it's
    FWD/AWD brand? Would we see Volvos being made in the US BMW plant?

    I wonder if BMW would pay Ford as much for Volvo as Ford paid BMW for
    Land Rover a few years back.

    Strange times indeed.

    CNN just ran a story on this as well:



    http://money.cnn.com/2007/05/28/news/companies/ford_volvo.reut/index.htm?source=yahoo_quote
     
    John Horner, May 28, 2007
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    Joe Guest

    I understand the 5 cylinder FWD engine is a BMW design, at Volvo request.

    joe
     
    Joe, May 29, 2007
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