high wattage backup lamps

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Has anyone tried using 35 or 50w halogen backup bulbs in a 240 or 740? I've
noticed they exist, not sure if the wiring/lenses on these cars can support
them though. Anyone tried it?
 
James Sweet said:
Has anyone tried using 35 or 50w halogen backup bulbs in a 240 or 740? I've
noticed they exist, not sure if the wiring/lenses on these cars can support
them though. Anyone tried it?

I´ve used 100w headlights in my cars during the winter. Have to change to
std 55w in the summer though, the cable connector tends to burn.
 
How much of a difference is it?

I've always thought that other driver's ultra-bright lights are distracting
and obnoxious, as the beam literally explodes on my finely scratched (or
dirty) windshield. That being said, if I had them myself, it would be an
entirely different story.

How much of a difference is it?

-bk
 
Almost double the effect, dont know how many more lumen it in fact gives,
but my experience is that you get a lot more light in front of the car. In
sweden where we have 6 months of darkness, good lights are nice to have. I
also use 3 extra floodlights (100w each)
 
[JohanE] (Mon, 12 Jan 2004 12:26:56 GMT):
Almost double the effect, dont know how many more lumen it in fact gives,
but my experience is that you get a lot more light in front of the car. In
sweden where we have 6 months of darkness, good lights are nice to have. I
also use 3 extra floodlights (100w each)

In norway you can only have 2 or 4 extra lights, not 3..

Dunno why :/
 
[Svein Tore Sølvik] (Mon, 12 Jan 2004 14:12:33 +0100):
[JohanE] (Mon, 12 Jan 2004 12:26:56 GMT):
Almost double the effect, dont know how many more lumen it in fact gives,
but my experience is that you get a lot more light in front of the car. In
sweden where we have 6 months of darkness, good lights are nice to have. I
also use 3 extra floodlights (100w each)

In norway you can only have 2 or 4 extra lights, not 3..

Dunno why :/

Next autumn, this is going to be installed:
http://www.speedparts.se/prod/sp_el_fjarrljus.shtml

I hope.. :)
 
Because it´s Norway.... :-)
Svein Tore Sølvik said:
[JohanE] (Mon, 12 Jan 2004 12:26:56 GMT):
Almost double the effect, dont know how many more lumen it in fact gives,
but my experience is that you get a lot more light in front of the car. In
sweden where we have 6 months of darkness, good lights are nice to have. I
also use 3 extra floodlights (100w each)

In norway you can only have 2 or 4 extra lights, not 3..

Dunno why :/
 
check http://www.extraljus.com/

Svein Tore Sølvik said:
[Svein Tore Sølvik] (Mon, 12 Jan 2004 14:12:33 +0100):
[JohanE] (Mon, 12 Jan 2004 12:26:56 GMT):
Almost double the effect, dont know how many more lumen it in fact gives,
but my experience is that you get a lot more light in front of the car. In
sweden where we have 6 months of darkness, good lights are nice to have. I
also use 3 extra floodlights (100w each)

In norway you can only have 2 or 4 extra lights, not 3..

Dunno why :/

Next autumn, this is going to be installed:
http://www.speedparts.se/prod/sp_el_fjarrljus.shtml

I hope.. :)
 
I´ve used 100w headlights in my cars during the winter. Have to change to
std 55w in the summer though, the cable connector tends to burn.

Inconsiderate drivers who aim their headlights higher or install
non-conforming extra bright bulbs are a menace to other community spirited
drivers who keep their vehicles within the accepted regulations. They are
too stupid to realize that the roadways are not necessarily safer if they
are the only ones who can see.

Back in the '70's all cars had standardized sealed beam headlights. They
were not quite as good as some of the better modern designs but at least
everyone could see well because they were quite good at controlling glare
and a very high percentage of people were considerate and kept the aim
within specs. Now we have improved lighting and the potential for even
better safety and visibility were it not for the inconsiderates who only
care how well THEY can see.
 
JohanE said:
I´ve used 100w headlights in my cars during the winter. Have to change to
std 55w in the summer though, the cable connector tends to burn.

I use 100w headlights all the time (H4 lamps in E code housings), but I
rewired it using relays and heavy wires so it works just fine, it's the
backup lights I'm curious about, it's not as convenient to rewire them, and
the lenses are plastic, but they're only on for a few seconds at a time.
 
Spanky said:
Inconsiderate drivers who aim their headlights higher or install
non-conforming extra bright bulbs are a menace to other community spirited
drivers who keep their vehicles within the accepted regulations. They are
too stupid to realize that the roadways are not necessarily safer if they
are the only ones who can see.

Back in the '70's all cars had standardized sealed beam headlights. They
were not quite as good as some of the better modern designs but at least
everyone could see well because they were quite good at controlling glare
and a very high percentage of people were considerate and kept the aim
within specs. Now we have improved lighting and the potential for even
better safety and visibility were it not for the inconsiderates who only
care how well THEY can see.

Standard sealed beam headlights are garbage, they're dim in part because
they throw a lot of light up rather than where it belongs down on the road.
If you put brighter bulbs in DOT headlamps you do get a lot of glare,
however good European lamps (which that poster would have living in Norway)
can accept much brighter bulbs without causing excessive glare so long as
they're aimed correctly. I've been running 100w bulbs for over a year now
and I have yet to have someone flash me, the cutoff is below the windshield
of an oncoming car unless I'm going up a steep hill, in which case any light
will glare.
 
James Sweet said:
I use 100w headlights all the time (H4 lamps in E code housings), but I
rewired it using relays and heavy wires so it works just fine, it's the
backup lights I'm curious about, it's not as convenient to rewire them, and
the lenses are plastic, but they're only on for a few seconds at a time.
Yeah in the rear it shouldnt matter. I have considered rewiring but never
got round to it yet.
 
Spanky said:
Inconsiderate drivers who aim their headlights higher or install
non-conforming extra bright bulbs are a menace to other community spirited
drivers who keep their vehicles within the accepted regulations. They are
too stupid to realize that the roadways are not necessarily safer if they
are the only ones who can see.

Back in the '70's all cars had standardized sealed beam headlights. They
were not quite as good as some of the better modern designs but at least
everyone could see well because they were quite good at controlling glare
and a very high percentage of people were considerate and kept the aim
within specs. Now we have improved lighting and the potential for even
better safety and visibility were it not for the inconsiderates who only
care how well THEY can see.
whatta bullshit. If the lights are aimed correct the glare is no more to the
oncomer if its 55w or 100w ( or Zenon lights for that matter)
Come over here close to the polar circle and get used to driving in the cold
and dark instead of wining.
 
JohanE said:
If the lights are aimed correct the glare is no more to the
oncomer if its 55w or 100w ( or Zenon lights for that matter)

That is only true if you live where all roads are flat and straight. On
right curves and crests of hills, even low beams shine straight at the
eyes of drivers of oncoming cars. And, as you know, that is the most
critical time for the oncoming cars to be able to see where they are
going.
 
Stephen M. Henning said:
That is only true if you live where all roads are flat and straight. On
right curves and crests of hills, even low beams shine straight at the
eyes of drivers of oncoming cars. And, as you know, that is the most
critical time for the oncoming cars to be able to see where they are
going.

So, you as the oncomer must learn were to focus your view NOT into the light
beem - simple as that. and doesnt matter if it 50 or 100w.
 
whatta bullshit. If the lights are aimed correct the glare is no more to the
oncomer if its 55w or 100w ( or Zenon lights for that matter)
Come over here close to the polar circle and get used to driving in the cold
and dark instead of wining.

You need to re-read my post. I have a beef with headlights that don't
conform to regulations, not correctly aimed lights that conform to DOT
lighting standards. Every country has adopted lighting standards, some are
better than others but, in all cases, everyone should abide by them for the
best safety and visibility. My beef is with the renegades who think
everything is hunky dory just because the road is lit like daylight in front
of them, ignoring the fact that their non-conforming headlights are actually
creating a very real road hazard, especially in the rain or in the face of
aging baby-boomers whose eyes cannot handle the extra glare as well as some
of us younger people.

Maybe your body needs a little more sunlight exposure to better help your
brain understand simple English.
 
So, you as the oncomer must learn were to focus your view NOT into the light
beem - simple as that. and doesnt matter if it 50 or 100w.

It's a proven fact that as eyes age the problem with glare increases. The
retina tends to be crystal clear in youth and gradually age causes it to
become less so. This is primarly a problem if an oncoming car is directing a
lot of light toward your face or in your rear/sideview mirrors. It is not
only a problem if the light is looked into directly, the stray light
reflects around inside as the eye ages. That's why we have lighting
regulations, so everyone can co-exist on the road safely at night. My eyes
are still clear but I know they won't always be as good as they are now.
Therefore I want to extend courtesy to older drivers on the road and I hope
others will extend the same courtesy to me in my later years.

It's just common sense.
 
They are obtainable as replacement bulb units from IPD http://www.ipdusa.com .

Cheers, Peter.

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: "James Sweet" <[email protected]> skrev i meddelandet
: : >
: > : > >
: > > "James Sweet" <[email protected]> skrev i meddelandet
: > > : > > > Has anyone tried using 35 or 50w halogen backup bulbs in a 240 or 740?
: > > I've
: > > > noticed they exist, not sure if the wiring/lenses on these cars can
: > > support
: > > > them though. Anyone tried it?
: > > >
: > > >
: > >
: > > I´ve used 100w headlights in my cars during the winter. Have to change
: to
: > > std 55w in the summer though, the cable connector tends to burn.
: > >
: > >
: >
: > I use 100w headlights all the time (H4 lamps in E code housings), but I
: > rewired it using relays and heavy wires so it works just fine, it's the
: > backup lights I'm curious about, it's not as convenient to rewire them,
: and
: > the lenses are plastic, but they're only on for a few seconds at a time.
: >
: >
: Yeah in the rear it shouldnt matter. I have considered rewiring but never
: got round to it yet.
:
:
 
JohanE said:
So, you as the oncomer must learn were to focus your view NOT into the light
beem - simple as that. and doesnt matter if it 50 or 100w.

So you believe that it is not important to prevent accidents by obeying
laws that are designed to prevent blinding oncoming drivers. Personally
I find that the extra brightness does little to help when other cars are
coming. It only helps when there are no oncoming cars. In that case, I
find the high beams on my Volvos more than adequate. I live in deer
country and good high beams are life savers and my Volvo has them.
 
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