In-Line Magnetic Filters for Volvo??

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Anyone had any expereince with the product listed below? I added the URL
so anyone could check it out.. it sounds a *little* like snake oil, but on
the other hand might really work well... any idea?



Oil flows through your automatic transmission and power steering system to
transmit power, lubricate parts and provide cooling. Contaminants (like
dirt, metal fragments and fibers) result in the oil working like
sandpaper. Instead of lubricating, the oil gradually wears out the parts
it's supposed to protect. Under normal driving conditions, the oil can be
contaminated in just 25 hours of driving.

The most damaging particles are actually the microscopic ones (3-4
microns in size) because they become crushed and jammed between the
working surfaces of the components. Magnefine filters stop ferrous metal
below the sub-micron level! The remaining metal and dirt is stopped by
the paper element.

Installing a Magnefine in-line filter will remove 99.997% of damaging
contamination, making the oil cleaner than when your vehicle first left
the factory. And keeps it that way.

http://www.ipdusa.com/productscat.aspx?CategoryID=386&NodeID=277&RootID=629
 
Steve said:
Anyone had any expereince with the product listed below? I added the URL
so anyone could check it out.. it sounds a *little* like snake oil, but on
the other hand might really work well... any idea?



Oil flows through your automatic transmission and power steering system to
transmit power, lubricate parts and provide cooling. Contaminants (like
dirt, metal fragments and fibers) result in the oil working like
sandpaper. Instead of lubricating, the oil gradually wears out the parts
it's supposed to protect. Under normal driving conditions, the oil can be
contaminated in just 25 hours of driving.

The most damaging particles are actually the microscopic ones (3-4
microns in size) because they become crushed and jammed between the
working surfaces of the components. Magnefine filters stop ferrous metal
below the sub-micron level! The remaining metal and dirt is stopped by
the paper element.

Installing a Magnefine in-line filter will remove 99.997% of damaging
contamination, making the oil cleaner than when your vehicle first left
the factory. And keeps it that way.
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http://www.ipdusa.com/productscat.aspx?CategoryID=386&NodeID=277&RootID=629

If auto makers could improve their products this easily, why don't they do
it?
 
Inquiring minds want to Know?

Could it be that if they run too long, you won't buy your next car for
a few more years?

Bill @ Home in Wisconsin, USA
Maroon 1989 760 Turbo wagon! w/134k miles ;-}
Black! 1989 780 Turbo Coupe w/143k miles 8-}
Blue Mule 1987 245 non-Turbo w/205k miles :-)SOLD
 
I think that any extra filtration is good as long as it is reliable.
Some aftermarket products are just crap , and will shorten the life of
your machine. BTW , lots of transmission pans have a small magnet in
them from the factory, to catch ferrous fragments. I don't see why you
can't add your own magnet in the pan, if it makes you feel safer.
Richard W.
 
The vast majority of failed transmission that I see in my shop fail due to
foreign material contamination--read--clutch material, either from the
transmission or the torque converter. This material is not
ferromagnetic--just won't stick to a magnet.

A better investment is a good tranny service based on manufacturer recommend
intervals and the type of use you give your vehicle. This will get you a
visual inspection of the condition of the material in your pan, if any and
hopefully there is not any. A new filter will be installed, bands tightened
if so equipped. If you go to shop that uses a "kidney flusher" that is
good-but unless the pan is dropped you do not get a fresh filter. With the
power flush your torque converter will be refreshed as well--this is a
relatively new piece of equipment and is a plus when combined with a pan
drop, filter install and visual inspection.
 
Anyone had any expereince with the product listed below? I added the URL
so anyone could check it out.. it sounds a *little* like snake oil, but on
the other hand might really work well... any idea?

http://www.ipdusa.com/productscat.aspx?CategoryID=386&NodeID=277&RootID=629
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I use one - cos I thought it can't do any harm. And its not just a
magnetic filter - its also got a fairly standard filter on it as well.
My view is that it can't really do any harm.

I intend to cut one open fairly soon and see whats inside - but from
the ouitside they feel well made.

Sean
 
Inquiring minds want to Know?

Could it be that if they run too long, you won't buy your next car for
a few more years?
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Thats my view as well.

Sean
 
Sean Nugent said:
I use one - cos I thought it can't do any harm. And its not just a
magnetic filter - its also got a fairly standard filter on it as well.
My view is that it can't really do any harm.
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Filters can do a lot of harm. If the filter doesn't stand up to the
fluids and heat, it can start breaking down and cause damage. A filter
can get clogged and create an obstruction. A poor filter is much worse
than no filter at all.
 
Filters can do a lot of harm. If the filter doesn't stand up to the
fluids and heat, it can start breaking down and cause damage. A filter
can get clogged and create an obstruction. A poor filter is much worse
than no filter at all.
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I have mailed the President of the company that makes these to get
their response and will post here what he says...

Sean
 
COOL!!!!

Make a descriptive new header...
[Magnetic Filters and Proof they Work!!] or don't

this thread may get stale by the time the
prez replies!
 
Anyone had any expereince with the product listed below? I added the URL
so anyone could check it out.. it sounds a *little* like snake oil, but on
the other hand might really work well... any idea?
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Take apart a dead hard drive. There are one or two very strong rare earth
magnets in the head positioning servo. Stick one magnet on the outside of
the oil filter. It will stay there by itself. The field is strong enough
the it will penetrate the filter. Next oil change cut the filter open and
see a dark smudge of fine deposits in the place where the magnet was. Just
how much good does this do I do not know but the price is right.




Regards,

Boris Mohar

Got Knock? - see:
Viatrack Printed Circuit Designs http://www3.sympatico.ca/borism/
 
Take apart a dead hard drive. There are one or two very strong rare earth
magnets in the head positioning servo. Stick one magnet on the outside of
the oil filter. It will stay there by itself. The field is strong enough
the it will penetrate the filter. Next oil change cut the filter open and
see a dark smudge of fine deposits in the place where the magnet was. Just
how much good does this do I do not know but the price is right.
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OK thats easy enough! We used to play with them around the office...
strong little buggers!

Wonder what one would do on the tranny pan?

:)
 
COOL!!!!
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Cynic

The reply quoted below

We should be able to address these issues.
Extensive fleet and laboratory testing (by the car companies)of the
Magnefine has not shown failure of the filter media. In addition, the
filter has an internal metal structure that keeps the media from
collapsing.
He is right about the use of "cheap" media filters in this application
as any degradation of the media could cause failure. We use the
combination of a 25 micron filter with the magnet. University studies
found that much of the nonferrous materials were brought into the
system by wear created by the ferrous materials that are in the fluid.
Removal of the ferrous particles substantially decreased the wear of
nonferrous materials. The filter does have a bypass valve in the rare
event that you could plug the media. We have no recorded failure of
the transmission that was caused by a filter failure. Our fleet
testing for approval with Ford Motor subjected the filter to some of
the most extreme conditions (taxi fleets in Las Vegas).

Hopefully, this will help clarify some of the issues.

Sean
 
Sean Nugent said:
We have no recorded failure of
the transmission that was caused by a filter failure. Our fleet
testing for approval with Ford Motor subjected the filter to some of
the most extreme conditions (taxi fleets in Las Vegas).
Hopefully, this will help clarify some of the issues.
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Yes, the CEO of the company that makes them likes them. But they may
have some recorded failures of transmissions that the filter was
supposed to protect. However, he didn't say that CEO of the Ford Motor
Company, the company that tested them on a fleet of taxis in Las Vegas
liked them. That would have some credibility.
 
Yes, the CEO of the company that makes them likes them. But they may
have some recorded failures of transmissions that the filter was
supposed to protect. However, he didn't say that CEO of the Ford Motor
Company, the company that tested them on a fleet of taxis in Las Vegas
liked them. That would have some credibility.
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The answer to that was

"Ford is usually reluctant to endorse a product. They consider their
approval as an endorsement. I will see if there is anything that we
can use in addition to their approval of the product."

Sean
 
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