not much left to change...

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Randy G., Jun 15, 2004.

  1. Randy G.

    Randy G. Guest

    You may recall my (semi-)ongoing saga of work on the front suspension
    and steering of my '93 960 Estate. About a year ago I changed the ball
    joints and strut cartridges with related hardware. Made a big
    difference in handling and anti-lock brake performance. Just after
    that I had it aligned and the right inner tie rod end had to be
    changed. I just replaced the rear control arm cone bushings which were
    knocking as did teh anti-sway bar lnks while I was at it. That made a
    HUGE(!) difference in the way the car sits as well a nearly
    eliminating body roll in hard corners.. I was about thinking about
    pricing when teh fornt end developed a wobble that increased at speed,
    then an accompanying knock on rough, slow roads. I though that the
    other inner tie rod end was on the way. I checked it this AM and
    founfd the steering box needs to be replaced. The 'operating' rod (the
    rack part that comes out of the steering box) on the left side has a
    LOT of freeplay and when the steering wheel is wiggled lightly back
    and forth and it knocks badly which goes away when you pull downwards
    on it.. Oh, well... Already have a rebuilt one on the way from one of
    our oft' used e-stores for a LOT less than I could get one locally.

    The good news is that I am slowly running out of parts to change! I
    can say that this is generally a real easy car to work on. Just ask a
    Saab mechanic! ;-P~


    from Randy & Valerie
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    \__/olvo
    1993 960 Estate
     
    Randy G., Jun 15, 2004
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    Rob Guenther Guest

    Sounds like you just did what needs to be done on our 960... How much did
    all this set you back?

    Our 960 has been reduced to a near-Oldsmobile in corners, it wallows and
    body roll is prominant. That and its hot inside, the A/C just died this
    year - it's in the shop getting a new evaporator right now actually... they
    are going to take a look at the suspension system as well, and give us a
    quote.
     
    Rob Guenther, Jun 16, 2004
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  3. Randy G.

    Randy G. Guest

    The cone bushings and stabilizer links were $55 (I got the urethane
    cone bushings) from FCP Groton about two or three months ago. Those
    are generally easy to change with instructions and assistance at:
    http://www.swedishbricks.com/700900FAQ/FAQSummary1.html

    The important thing with the cone bushings (referred to as the rear
    control arm bushings i think) is that the front control arm where they
    mount must be absolutely clean and smooth before installing the new
    ones or the roughness will wear them away. I used a small, stiff wire
    wheel on a cordless drill.

    They say that the cone bushings should be changed about every
    30-50,000 miles or so, and mine were VERY worn (metal to metal) at
    110,000. Replacing the sway bar links restored ride height and
    cornering. I did ball joints at the time as well. Have them change the
    two bushings that mount the sway bar to the frame while they are in
    there as well... might as well!

    If you don't have the tools and knowldge, the strut cartridges are
    beyond what I would recommend as a job for someone without the
    experience. This job can be quite dangerous- deadly, actually!

    The rear shocks are not difficult, just be sure to get the
    self-leveling shocks which can be had online for about 1/2 or less
    than what they cost at Volvo, but that's no surprise, eh?

    The Boge Turo Gas struts were $104/pr. These were the least expensive
    gas struts and I am gald I didn't go above them. They are plenty stiff
    enough and anything more would be too much. Add $94 for the strut
    mounting kit.

    The Nivomats (rear shocks) were $380/pr. All from FCP about 16 months
    ago.

    The rack set me back $210 with shipping, but that included the inner
    tie rods. This is also a relatively easy job... relaticvely speaking.
    Feel free to E me if you need assistance or advice.

    You can always buy the parts and have them install them...

    All prices USD BTW, but you knew that as well!

    from Randy & Valerie
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    \ \ / /
    \ \/ /
    \__/olvo
    1993 960 Estate
     
    Randy G., Jun 16, 2004
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    Rob Guenther Guest

    So $1500-2000 for the dealer to do all this work ;-)...

    If Volvo's are as easy as people say they are to work on, maybe i'll ask for
    help from a "shadetree" mechanic friend of mine - he mostly works on VW's
    right now, but he has fixed many of cars (don't think any Volvo's tho)
     
    Rob Guenther, Jun 16, 2004
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    Randy G. Guest

    That's the cost for an estimate.. in CDN $$... I think the rear shocks
    at Volvo run about $550-700/pr USD. plus installation. My heart isn't
    strong enough to even ask about prices at Volvo anymore. What is a
    Rack and Pinion there.. around $600?
    If he has the tools then he can probably do it. The big thing is the
    spring compressor.The strut assembly has to be completely removed from
    the car, then the spring has to be compressed with special tools made
    for the job BEFORE removing the top center nut on the upper end of the
    strut. If he has the tool and has done the job then he can probably
    help you out. The rest of it is easy. Be sure to replace all the
    related parts like the upper spring bearing(name?).

    from Randy & Valerie
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    \ \ / /
    \ \/ /
    \__/olvo
    1993 960 Estate
     
    Randy G., Jun 16, 2004
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    Rob Guenther Guest

    He has a spring compressor, a generic one - will this be fine?

    Rack and pinion? If you mean a new steering rack, I think they are a little
    more then $600cnd, we bought one last year I know it was more, but I forget
    the price.
     
    Rob Guenther, Jun 16, 2004
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  7. Randy G.

    Randy G. Guest

    Probably.. The one I used I got from Sears. Make sure it is corrosion
    and rust-free, and well oiled before beginning. Even new ones can
    fail, so use care. Be sure it has some sort of locking arrangement
    that holds it firmly to the spring. As I remember, that's the only
    special tool needed. it really is an easy job. I use to work on VWs a
    lot as well, and in comparison, the Volvo is a joy to work on.

    ALthough I had done a LOT of work on cars and motorcycles before, I
    had never done a strut cartridge replacement. see:
    I think they are about $600 USD. I didn't think Canada had printed
    enough money to actually aloow anyone to purchase one! ;-)
    from Randy & Valerie
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    \ \ / /
    \ \/ /
    \__/olvo
    1993 960 Estate
     
    Randy G., Jun 17, 2004
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    Rob Guenther Guest

    Hey, no Canadian money bashing, our economy rebounded more then the US did
    this year and we're up to 3/4's value on your dollar now.

    And if you do the conversion, we get cars cheaper here ;-).
     
    Rob Guenther, Jun 17, 2004
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