Oddball electrical experience with my 1990 240 today

Discussion in 'Volvo 240' started by Tim McNamara, Oct 28, 2009.

  1. Tim McNamara

    Tim McNamara Guest

    Dunno what to make of this. Drove to my first workplace this morning
    and the car ran like a top per usual.

    Got in to drive to workplace #2 and noticed the overdrive light came on
    on the dash, pushed the button and it went off. Car seemed to run fine
    but wasn't really paying a lot of attention to it.

    Got in to drive to workplace #3 and noticed the OD light came on again.
    Then I noticed that the "brake failure" light, which has been stuck on
    for ages even though there's nothing wrong with the brakes, was off.
    Paying more attention I noticed that the fuel gauge suddenly didn't
    work. It was bright and sunny so I couldn't tell if the dash lights
    came on or not when I switched on the headlight, which according to the
    bumper of the car in front of me worked fine. The hi-beam indicator
    came on. I noticed that the speedometer no longer worked nor did the
    trip odometer or the regular odometer. Idle speed was high and the car
    did not seem to shift into overdrive on the highway.

    Got to workplace #3, yanked the fusebox cover and checked all the fuses.
    They were fine. Noticed that if I turned off the car and restarted, the
    idiot lights didn't come on at startup, and the OD indicator always came
    on after the car started. Running very late, had to abandon the
    examination and go into work.

    Came back out four hours later, started the car, everything works
    normally. Ran like a top all the way home.

    WTF?
     
    Tim McNamara, Oct 28, 2009
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  2. Tim McNamara

    James Sweet Guest


    Did you clean the fuses too? They can look fine and still have issues.

    Also check the ground strap between the engine and firewall, and the
    negative battery cable. Bad grounds can cause all sorts of weird stuff.
     
    James Sweet, Oct 28, 2009
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  3. Tim McNamara

    /g Guest


    Exactly my thought. I've had several adventures with bad grounds on my
    740s and 940s. On both, they split the ground. Part seems to be more for
    the
    starting circuit, and the other part seems to affect the dash, and computer,
    etc.
    When mine failed, I usually found the ground connected with one last strand
    of
    the original cable.

    So, James is right, check ALL of the grounds on the car. In fact, go thru
    and
    clean at least the most obvious ones.

    luck, /glenn
     
    /g, Oct 28, 2009
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  4. Tim McNamara

    clay Guest


    WAG, ignition switch? I dunno...
     
    clay, Oct 28, 2009
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  5. Tim McNamara

    Tim McNamara Guest

    I spun all of then in their holders and pulled out #16 for closer
    examination, since the manual indicated that fuse is involved with a
    number of these circuits. There was no obvious oxidation or tarnish on
    the ends of the fuse or the holder contacts.
    I'll look at that, thanks!
     
    Tim McNamara, Oct 29, 2009
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  6. Tim McNamara

    Tim McNamara Guest

    Thanks, are there particular places I should be looking (I probably
    don't have a clue where most of the grounds would be located).
     
    Tim McNamara, Oct 29, 2009
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    Andy Guest

    : > Tim McNamara wrote:
    :
    : I spun all of then in their holders and pulled out #16 for closer
    : examination, since the manual indicated that fuse is involved with a
    : number of these circuits. There was no obvious oxidation or tarnish on
    : the ends of the fuse or the holder contacts.


    Hi Tim,

    Re the fuses, if they are the usual ceramic type with grey end contacts I
    would remove all of them. Thoroughly clean the fusebox contact strips
    using fine sand paper, then spray them with electrical contact cleaner and
    coat them with dielectric grease. Get new ceramic fuses with brass/copper
    end contacts. My local Volvo dealer did not stock them but an outfit
    catering to VW's did. Your fuses should then be reliably trouble-free for a
    long time.

    The problem with the original setup is the two dissimilar metals in contact
    (Copper and Zinc). This can cause "Galvanic action" and the resulting
    corrosion.

    Good Luck.
    Andy I. ('58 445 "Duett"; '65 122S wagon; '67 121 2-door direct
    import; '74 145 wagon; '74 142; '86 240 wagon; '93 240 "Classic" wagon; '97
    850 AWD wagon)
     
    Andy, Oct 29, 2009
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