one flat, four new tires?

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by al south, Nov 21, 2005.

  1. al south

    al south Guest

    Question: Backed my 98 V70 AWD into a sidewalk and got an unifixable
    rear flat tire. My mechanic, generally pretty reliable, said it was
    essential I replace all four tires. They were Pirelli snow tires, two
    years old.
    I've heard this before, but alas this was the first time i'd
    encountered it with this vehicle, which I bought three years ago second
    hand.
    Could someone reassure me that it was neccesary for me to drop $500 for
    four new tires when only one was dead? I understand (or not) that this
    has something to do with the transmission, the tracs, the viscuous
    coupling, the Volvo AWD for that particular year???
    Furthermore, WHEN does it become essential?. When does the difference
    in tread size (I'm assuming that is the problem) become a problem with
    the old tires versus the new ones. After a year? After x amount of
    tread loss?
    Sorry if this has been dealt w/ before, thanks for any info.
     
    al south, Nov 21, 2005
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  2. al south

    User Guest

    In general there should be less than 1/8' difference in circumference
    between any one tire and any one of the others.Cf:

    http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tiretech/techpage.jsp?techid=18

    Bob
     
    User, Nov 22, 2005
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  3. al south

    al south Guest

    Thanks Bob.
    Unforturnately, I didn't measure the new tire against an old tire to
    see if there was a 1/8 difference in the circumference. Frankly, I had
    a hard enough time getting that weird little spare tire onto the car.
    I don't think my mechanic measured the circumference either lol
    As for the option of "shaving" the new tire to the same tread length
    of the old tires (in the article you linked, thx)...
    It's an interesting concept, though if I suggested that in the shop,
    they would look at me like I was nuts, no? Is that a common procedure?
    Anyhow, for anyone interested, my present opinion is that the AWD
    function on the 98 V70 is (was) a SCAM, and that the amount you have to
    pay to baby the system is not worth it. Better to get a non-AWD and
    save your money for towing (also, you wouldn't need a flatbed truck to
    tow it, jeez).
    I presume Volve has improved the system since then?
    Btw I live in the frozen canadian north. I'm not against AWD as a
    concept, but really, what a joke. Can someone name me a time when the
    AWD on the 98 V70 has gotten them out of a jam?
     
    al south, Nov 22, 2005
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  4. That has been greatly improved with the use of the newer Haldex system on
    Volvo AWD equipped cars. Try the new V50 T5 AWD.

    All the best, Peter.

    700/900/90 Register Keeper,
    Volvo Owners Club (UK).
     
    Peter K L Milnes, Nov 22, 2005
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  5. I've heard of "tire shaving" for that purpose, so I doubt you'd be laughed
    at everywhere. Maybe a few places....

    Mike
     
    Michael Pardee, Nov 22, 2005
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  6. al south

    Mike F Guest

    There aren't many places with the equipment to shave tires. Look for
    shops that specialize in race prep for street cars. In racing series
    where street legal tires are required, they're shaved down to reduce
    heat build-up, tread chunking and increase grip and stability.

    --
    Mike F.
    Thornhill (near Toronto), Ont.

    Replace tt with t (twice!) and remove parentheses to email me directly.
    (But I check the newsgroup more often than this email address.)
     
    Mike F, Nov 22, 2005
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  7. al south

    Doug Warner Guest

    I routinely get that kind of difference through normal wear alone, at
    least front to rear, (I don't rotate, but just replace two fronts
    for one set of rears)

    ALso, whenever I have all four replaced, I keep the best of the four,
    to use if one of the ones on the car takes fatal damage halfway
    through it's life, This has saved me the cost of new tire(s) several
    times now.
     
    Doug Warner, Nov 22, 2005
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  8. al south

    Gary Heston Guest

    Shaving is the primary method for correcting out-of-round tires; any
    major tire chain (Goodyear, etc.) will have the equipment. The discount
    or megastore places (Sears, Sams' Club. Wal-Mart, etc.) will take their
    chances that the tires are close enough to correct with weights. Doesn't
    always work...


    Gary
     
    Gary Heston, Nov 23, 2005
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