Reference: 1993 240 Sedan Brake Light Problem Fixed (new sensor worked)

Discussion in 'Volvo 240' started by paulusamail, Jul 30, 2006.

  1. paulusamail

    paulusamail Guest

    This is just for reference as I just struggled through this problem and
    found many posts helpful but couldn't reply because they are older
    threads. But I wanted to post the resolution for reference for someone
    else.

    Problem: 1993 Volvo 240 Sedan with all lights working except brake
    lights (including third brake light in back window). Fuses ok (changed
    twice). Bulbs ok (tried many). Power through brake switch (the one way
    up above the switch for the cruise control). Had checked power to back
    flexible circuit board and power to the white plastic connectors was
    coming in only to parking, flashers, and fog lights. So it seemed the
    board was OK with the problem between the pedal switch and the
    connector in the back (sedan).

    Pulled off the hard plastic near your knees (pull out plastic tabs and
    remove to star screws and then bring down and out). Reached up and
    pulled the black and red bulb failure sensor (~ 3 inches long and ~
    1.5 inces diameter) down from the clip that holds it. It comes apart
    (the black and red part but it was difficult.

    As others posted, tested lead #54 by slipping in the voltage meter
    probe. Getting voltage in on #54 meant (I think) that power was coming
    in from the brake switch when the pedal was pressed. That is how I
    ruled out the brake pedal switch - it was easier to get to the senor
    then the switch. So then I kept the pedal down and checked the two
    out-going leads (#54L and #54R) and there was nothing on the meter.

    I replaced the sensor with a $127 (late on a Saturday - no time for
    price checking) one from the volvo dealer and it all worked!

    Hope this helps....
     
    paulusamail, Jul 30, 2006
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  2. paulusamail

    AND Books Guest

    thanks aplenty! my '90 245 has it's brake lights on all of the time. was
    this your problem also... why can't i just do a simple switch from the
    pedal to the brake lights... i've ignored the problem for 2 monhts...
    used to be a simple replacement on my previous 122 and '86 240s...

    am i missing something?

    thanks for any advice!

    js

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    wrote:
    : This is just for reference as I just struggled through this problem and
    : found many posts helpful but couldn't reply because they are older
    : threads. But I wanted to post the resolution for reference for someone
    : else.

    : Problem: 1993 Volvo 240 Sedan with all lights working except brake
    : lights (including third brake light in back window). Fuses ok (changed
    : twice). Bulbs ok (tried many). Power through brake switch (the one way
    : up above the switch for the cruise control). Had checked power to back
    : flexible circuit board and power to the white plastic connectors was
    : coming in only to parking, flashers, and fog lights. So it seemed the
    : board was OK with the problem between the pedal switch and the
    : connector in the back (sedan).

    : Pulled off the hard plastic near your knees (pull out plastic tabs and
    : remove to star screws and then bring down and out). Reached up and
    : pulled the black and red bulb failure sensor (~ 3 inches long and ~
    : 1.5 inces diameter) down from the clip that holds it. It comes apart
    : (the black and red part but it was difficult.

    : As others posted, tested lead #54 by slipping in the voltage meter
    : probe. Getting voltage in on #54 meant (I think) that power was coming
    : in from the brake switch when the pedal was pressed. That is how I
    : ruled out the brake pedal switch - it was easier to get to the senor
    : then the switch. So then I kept the pedal down and checked the two
    : out-going leads (#54L and #54R) and there was nothing on the meter.

    : I replaced the sensor with a $127 (late on a Saturday - no time for
    : price checking) one from the volvo dealer and it all worked!

    : Hope this helps....


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    AND Books, Jul 30, 2006
    #2
  3. paulusamail

    James Sweet Guest


    It's a reasonably common problem, the solder joints in the sensor crack,
    takes about 10 minutes with a soldering iron to repair them.
     
    James Sweet, Jul 30, 2006
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  4. paulusamail

    James Sweet Guest


    That sounds like the switch has failed.
     
    James Sweet, Jul 30, 2006
    #4
  5. paulusamail

    paulusamail Guest

    I thought about soldering (as other posts had mentioned) but had run
    out of energy and patience for the day. But you are right - $100+ part
    versus $1.00 of solder...should have been a simple choice... :/

    As a side note for the other post, my problem was that the brake lights
    would NOT go on. It was not the case that they stayed on all the time
    as I saw in other posts. AS James wrote, that does sound more like a
    switch that is stuck on.

    Remember, at least on my car with cruise control, I think the switch
    for the brake lights is higher up and a little harder to see. The first
    one I see underneath is for the cruise control (it has a t-connector
    for the vacuum hose and then a small two-wire plastic connector).

    When I first checked things, I checked voltage on both sides of that
    switch - which only meant power for the cruise was working. I really
    hadn't ruled out the brake light switch like I should have until I
    checked voltage coming in to the senor.
     
    paulusamail, Jul 30, 2006
    #5
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