S70 groaning, but not on full turn

Discussion in 'Volvo S70' started by mchiu, Sep 9, 2008.

  1. mchiu

    mchiu Guest

    My 1998 S70 T5 makes groaning sounds when turning to the left and
    right, usually into parking spaces. I don't even have to go to a full
    turn to get the sound. Also, going a full turn is more difficult, and
    I think there actually is some rubbing on the tops of the tires.

    Is this a suspension issue? Over the years, I've upgraded the shocks
    and replaced the spring seats a couple times, and each of those times
    required the springs to be compressed a good amount. Would all these
    compressions reduce the lifetime of the springs, or could this be a
    shock issue or something else? Incidentally, how long do stock shocks
    last?
     
    mchiu, Sep 9, 2008
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  2. mchiu

    at Guest

    mchiu kirjoitti:

    Hi

    This sound like steering. Front wheel drive limiting turning cicle so
    much that it will go all the way to far ends. Then it's make sqiizie
    sound at the end of turning limit. It also can rub to some suspension
    parts. Check inside front wheels and all suspension parts for wearing.
    Also possible You bought too wide tires.


    Tero
    Finland
     
    at, Sep 9, 2008
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  3. mchiu

    Roger Mills Guest

    In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
    I don't know about your exact symptoms - but the usual cure for groaning on
    full lock is to grease the lock-stops. These are fat metal 'fingers' on each
    swivel assembly (one per side) which come up against nylon pads on ful lock.
    These have to be able to slide on the nylon, as the suspension moves up and
    down. If they get dry, you get the groaning noise. A quick smear of grease
    on the nylon pads fixes the problem in less than 5 minutes.
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    Cheers,
    Roger
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    Roger Mills, Sep 9, 2008
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  4. mchiu

    mchiu Guest

    I get the sound before getting to a full lock. There is also
    resistance when trying to go to a full lock, like when doing a u-
    turn.

    I have had my tires for several years, and I haven't had a problem
    before. I think I am using the same stock 16 inch size. The reason I
    think there is rubbing is because directly above the top of the wheel,
    when I rub my fingers on the wheelwell, I can feel some rubber that I
    can scrape off. I don't have that anywhere else in the front wheelwell
    or in the rear.

    Mike
     
    mchiu, Sep 9, 2008
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  5. mchiu

    Roger Mills Guest

    In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
    Does this happen with both left and right turns, or only in one direction?
    If only one, I wonder whether something has happened to the lock-stop -
    allowing you to turn *beyond* full lock. That could well result in greater
    resistance from the steering rack - and also allow the tyre to rub against
    the wheel-arch.
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    Roger
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    Roger Mills, Sep 10, 2008
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  6. mchiu

    mchiu Guest

    both directions groan, and both tires have what is probably the rub.
     
    mchiu, Sep 10, 2008
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    Brian Sørup Guest

    It's probably the bearings at the top of the Struts that have gone bad,
    they can easily make the noise you describe, especially at very low
    speed.
    Rub of the tires is easy to determine, just take a look in your
    fenderwells, there'll be a clear spot where/if the tyre makes contact -
    I know because my tires rub the fenderwell at full turn.
     
    Brian Sørup, Sep 10, 2008
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  8. mchiu

    Syversens Guest

    Hey mchiu, we had similar problem on our S60 and found that there was
    a leak in the steerling fluid container (or whatever its called) make
    sure you have enough fluids, if not top off and find leak... ours was
    the actual container.
     
    Syversens, Sep 11, 2008
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  9. mchiu

    mchiu Guest

    I check the power steering fluid a while ago when I first started
    researching the problem. I was above the line, but I guess it can't
    hurt to add a lot more just in case. As the sounds has probably been
    more prevalent, I guess I will check again.

    And about the bearings, can these be replaced w/o taking out the
    springs and shocks?

    Thanks to everyone,
    Mike
     
    mchiu, Sep 12, 2008
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  10. mchiu

    Brian Sørup Guest

    "mchiu" <> skrev i en meddelelse
    Nope....
     
    Brian Sørup, Sep 13, 2008
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