S70 T5 OBDII Monitors not ready for emissions

Discussion in 'Volvo S70' started by Pal, May 11, 2004.

  1. Pal

    Pal Guest

    I have a 99 S70 T5
    It is inspection time and with the new OBDII emissions based test I can not
    have
    any check engine codes. About 6 months ago I had the Check engine light and
    checked the code.

    It was Fuel rich Bank 1. I replaced the Front O2 Sensor with an OEM
    sensor - Bosch I believe.
    About a month later the light came back on. I lived with it. But now I
    need it to pass inspection.

    I checked the codes and had the P0172 error. Same thing.
    I started to check the vacuum lines and could not find any obvious problems.
    I cleaned the wires on the MAF sensor.

    Still the same error. I cleared the code and now have 3 monitors that are
    not ready.
    O2, Catalyst and Evap System. I think you can have no more than 2 monitors
    not ready
    for the OBDII emissions test. I ran it about 15 minutes this evening and
    still they did not reset.
    I will let it cool and run it again tomorrow.

    Any ideas on what else to check? I read about a small vacuum elbow near the
    power steering pump
    but I could not find it on my T5.

    Oh, when I start it cold it runs very ruff for about 15 seconds.

    Thanks
    Pal
     
    Pal, May 11, 2004
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  2. Pal

    Guest Guest

    You definately have a problem if its running rough at cold start. All the 5
    cylinders should fire up almost instanltly and smoothly at cold start. It
    sounds as its running rich- does the exhaust smell excessively of fuel? I'd
    be looking at the coolant temp sensor to begin with...

    Tim..
     
    Guest, May 11, 2004
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  3. Pal

    Mike F Guest

    Replacing the oxygen sensor is not the thing to do for P0172. The most
    likely causes are vacuum leaks, fuel pressure or injector problems or a
    bad air mass sensor.
    Once the computer is "reset", (i.e. codes cleared, battery changed) it
    has to go through a thorough check of all systems, (called a "trip")
    twice for the readiness code to be set to "yes".

    To set readiness codes, first turn off your A/C. A/C coming on will
    cause tests to abort. Resetting the check engine light the "proper way"
    with a Volvo tool will minimize the number of checks that need to be
    done.

    After the computer is reset, the flywheel adaptation must first be
    done. This adaptation only occurs during coasting, the computer
    analyses the tolerances in the cage or teeth on the flywheel so it knows
    exactly when each cylinder is at top dead center. This is used for
    misfire diagnostics. You need to do several decelerations from speed
    (coasting). Without the special Volvo tool you have no way of knowing
    when this has been completed, but 5 or 6 from 100 km/hr (60 mph) to 40
    km/hr (25 mph) should be enough. A slight downhill will help.

    The Trip

    Obviously a road with little traffic and a good shoulder where you can
    pull off easily would be preferable to complete this cycle. The times
    given are minimum, allowing a little longer won't hurt.

    Start engine, with the coolant temperature between 29 and 49 degrees
    Celsius.
    Make sure the A/C is off.
    Gear selector in Drive
    Drive at 1500-2000 rpm for 6 minutes
    Idle engine in Drive for 70 seconds
    (Fuel trim adaptive functions are being tested here)
    Drive at 1500-2000 rpm for 6 minutes
    Idle engine in Drive for 70 seconds
    (Air pump functions are being tested here)
    Accelerate gently to at least 45 mph, (75 km/hr), drive at 1800-2200 rpm
    for 5 minutes
    Idle engine in Drive for 70 seconds
    (Evap leakage (gas cap) functions are being tested here)
    Accelerate gently to at least 45 mph, (75 km/hr), drive at 1800-2200 rpm
    for 4 minutes
    Now the instruction sheet I have does not specify, but I believe you
    should shift to neutral for the next step
    Rev engine to 1500 rpm, hold for 10 sec, return to idle for 10 sec.
    Repeat at least 3 more times.
    (Idle air adaptation needs to come to idle at least 7 times to be set
    to ready)

    Now if everything worked out OK, you have just completed one trip. Turn
    the car off, and allow the coolant temperature to drop between 29 and 49
    degrees Celsius, and repeat. If you have the fancy Volvo scan tool you
    can monitor this stuff, otherwise you're flying blind.

    And while this may look like a very unfunny joke, I'm afraid it isn't.

    --
    Mike F.
    Thornhill (near Toronto), Ont.

    NOTE: new address!!
    Replace tt with t (twice!) and remove parentheses to email me directly.
    (But I check the newsgroup more often than this email address.)
     
    Mike F, May 11, 2004
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  4. Pal

    Guest Guest

    If this is a MA7 system (electronic throttle) you wont have a MAF- this
    system uses a MAP sensor.
    What if its a manual Mike?

    Tim..
     
    Guest, May 11, 2004
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  5. Pal

    Mike F Guest

    Well, I didn't compose this, just copied it. You'll have to do this
    part in neutral, I guess.
    And ME7 injection still uses a MAF sensor.

    --
    Mike F.
    Thornhill (near Toronto), Ont.

    NOTE: new address!!
    Replace tt with t (twice!) and remove parentheses to email me directly.
    (But I check the newsgroup more often than this email address.)
     
    Mike F, May 12, 2004
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  6. Pal

    Guest Guest

    Ahh then my Haynes BOL is not telling the truth- they claim the ME7 uses a
    MAP sensor.

    Tim..
     
    Guest, May 12, 2004
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  7. Pal

    OBD Guest


    Bosch ME7 uses both a MAF and a MAP sensor. (And and intake air temp sensor
    and a air pressure sensor, lots of scope for problems!)
     
    OBD, May 12, 2004
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  8. Pal

    Guest Guest


    Ahharrr! We were both right then! hehe

    Tim..
     
    Guest, May 12, 2004
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