S80 T6 engine mounts

Discussion in 'Volvo S80' started by Cynthia, Aug 12, 2005.

  1. Cynthia

    Cynthia Guest

    Hi all,
    A question for the board. I have a 2000 S80 T6 with about 58k miles
    on it. In the almost 6 years (purchased in Sept 99) that I have owend
    it, I have replaced the engine/motor mounts 3 times. While I admit
    that I have a tendency to drive a little quickly, I do not "floor it".
    I also backed off a little bit on my acceleration after the first
    replacement a few years ago.

    I just took it in for servicing and did the 3rd replacement. I asked
    the service person about the motor mounts for Volvos, and he said that
    I should expect to replace them every few years, and that it was normal
    for most Volvos, except the S40 and another model that I didn't
    recognize.

    My husband thinks it is a deficiency in design. I am curious what
    other people have experienced with their Volvos. Overall, I love my
    car. I bought the extended warranty when the original warranty was
    almost up, and most stuff is covered, but that will expire at the end
    of 2006.

    Thank you in advance for your help.
    Cynthia
     
    Cynthia, Aug 12, 2005
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  2. i have a 00 w/135k miles...my mounts are up for
    replacement...the are worn "to the eye" so, we are
    replacing them.....

    your t6 w/only 50k miles on the clock should have
    maybe gone through one set (imho)...3 in 50k miles
    would indicate something wrong...are you using a volvo dealer
    for service?...
     
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  3. Cynthia

    Kytis Guest

    Believe it or not, but our 2001 V70 2,4T experienced an engine mount
    fault just after 24000 kms. Or 2,5 years.

    I specifically asked this a few weeks ago in Finland, where this guru of
    gurus told me quite frankly, that it's a known issue with our car. Looks
    like a fundamental design flaw to me. Never heard anyone complaining
    with similat probs with any make or model.

    All this actually adds up with the sad story we've experienced with our
    our car lately. I do refuse to make final conclusions at this very
    point, but I'm starting to get a pretty good overall picture of the
    design flaws, which involve yearmodels 1999-2001.

    The other ones seem to be:
    * ETM
    * automatic gearbox (especially 2001)
    * engine fan (recall earlier)
    * wheel alignment

    Hope this cleared a few issues. Have a great weekend!
     
    Kytis, Aug 12, 2005
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  4. Cynthia

    Cynthia Guest

    Yes, have used the Volvo dealer for all service, and I service
    regularly. The dealer is a reputable dealer. I wouldn't mind
    replacing once per 50k, but I am at once per 20k.
    Interested in other's experiences.
    Cynthia
     
    Cynthia, Aug 12, 2005
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    Steve Guest

    Our 850 has been recalled twice. Both times the dealer said we needed
    mounts.
    The used Volvo shop I bought the car from said they were fine two times, as
    they took ~500 bucks for 30k services from me.

    Hummmm.....
     
    Steve, Aug 12, 2005
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  6. isnt it true that any seepage or spilliage of oil
    or tranny fluid on a engine mount will render them
    "failed" and subject to replacement?...

    anyone expierencing this situation?
     
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  7. Cynthia

    Steve Guest

    And if any toxic birthday cake is accidentally dropped on a motor mount the
    entire sub frame must be magnifluxed by an FAA certified specialist. If the
    car must be moved to an airport for this inspection to occur the car must be
    airlifted, since the FAA holds no authority over ground based transport,
    save for aircraft while they taxi about. In a similar vein the FAA
    specialist AND his equipment must be airlifted to the location where the car
    is if an on site inspection is to take place.

    Be glad you do not have a SAAB, in cases where SAAB engine mounts are
    suspect all airlifting must be performed by a Saab aircraft!

    It's expected that when Honda's new jet comes out the same precautions will
    apply to Hondas and Acuras, and a good thing too, for most Japanese motor
    mounts are very sensitive to sushi contamination.

    The Saab 9-2 is a very complex issue that can not be discussed herein.

    ***sarcasm mode disengaged***
     
    Steve, Aug 12, 2005
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  8. that would cost a pretty penny to
    do........
     
    ~^ beancounter ~^, Aug 12, 2005
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  9. Steve...that would cost a pretty penny to
    do........ being a pilot, i can just imagine....
     
    ~^ beancounter ~^, Aug 12, 2005
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  10. once per 50k would get me thinkin'....
    they are not a "wear item" .....i will
    ask my volvo expert next time i see
    him, as he is going to do mine...
     
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  11. Cynthia

    Clive Guest

    Thats interesting
    my V40 is going to the dealer next week as i have excessive vibration while
    it idles. sounds like i might have an engine mount problem myself. what were
    your symtoms?
     
    Clive, Aug 13, 2005
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    Erik Lidén Guest

    I suppose you mean the upper eng. mount. If you buy this item you won't have
    to change it anymore:
    http://www.evolvecars.com/site/index.php?id=197,268,0,0,1,0

    /Erik Lidén
     
    Erik Lidén, Aug 13, 2005
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  13. Cynthia

    Randy G. Guest

    As I first read you post I thought, "DAMN! A woman who can go through
    motor mounts in 20,000 miles!? I wish I wans't married.. Then later,
    as I read alnog, "Oh, man! She's already married!" ;-)

    I would have to say that even 50,000 miles for a set of motor mounts
    sounds rediculous, and 20,000 is a definite problem. I agree with your
    husband that this is a design flaw.

    Here's one that's even worse: My mom has a 91 Taurus. She bought it
    new. It has rubber injected tie rod ends. If the rubber fails, the tie
    rod end separates resulting in loss of control. Maybe, in the case of
    your motor mounts, Ford's takeover is having an effect.



    __ __
    Randy & \ \/ /alerie's
    \__/olvos
    '90 245 Estate - '93 965 Estate
    "Shelby" & "Kate"
     
    Randy G., Aug 13, 2005
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  14. Cynthia

    Cynthia Guest

    Clive,
    I actually had no symptoms two out of the three times. The second
    time, I would get a "thump" sound when making a sharp right hand turn.
    They were all covered under warranty, so I cannot imagine the dealer
    would be making a false report.
    Interested in your experience....how many miles on your car?
    Cynthia
     
    Cynthia, Aug 13, 2005
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  15. Cynthia

    Cynthia Guest

    Erik, thanks for the reference on these bushings, I will (actually, my
    husband will -- grin) check into it.
    Cynthia
     
    Cynthia, Aug 13, 2005
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  16. Cynthia

    Clive Guest

    mine only has 35000 miles on it. i shall report back next weekend after the
    dealer has stung me
     
    Clive, Aug 13, 2005
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  17. Cynthia

    Cynthia Guest

    Randy et all,

    Righto, happily married to another thrill seeker :) We both like to
    ski fast and drive fast :) Shoot, I think I am fast, and then he beats
    me down the hill. My eyes water from the wind, blurring my vision,
    what the heck is happening with his eyes?

    Ford takeover was after my purchase, but could affect replacement
    parts(which I hadn't thought of before, thank you for that).

    I am thinking about your comment about tie ends....another comment was
    about the bushings....I know that I am not the only one who drives this
    car like I do.

    I would REALLY like other S80 owners to tell me what they are
    experiencing.

    I understand from your responses that 20k replacement on engine mounts
    is NOT normal.

    Thank you everyone for your help.

    Cynthia
     
    Cynthia, Aug 16, 2005
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  18. i drive my s80 hard...but, i am a new owner..purchasing
    a used 2000 t6 w/130,000 on it...i will have some useful info
    in a year or so...so far, i have driven aprox 10,000 miles..no
    problems...i have upgraded to t6 w/the IPD chip, the IPD
    beefed up sway bars, and a 2.5" exhaust system...
     
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  19. NHTSA Action Number : PE05041 NHTSA Recall Campaign Number : N/A
    Make : VOLVO Model: S80
    Manufacturer : VOLVO CARS OF N.A. LLC. Year : 2000
    Component : VEHICLE SPEED CONTROL
    Date Investigation Opened : July 26, 2005
    Date Investigation Closed : Open
    Summary:
    THE OFFICE OF DEFECTS INVESTIGATION (ODI) HAS RECEIVED ONE HUNDRED AND
    THIRTY-ONE (131) CONSUMER COMPLAINTS ALLEGING A VARIETY OF CONCERNS
    RESULTING FROM FAILURE OF THE ELECTRONIC THROTTLE CONTROL MODULE (ETM)
    IN THE SUBJECT VEHICLES, INCLUDING A SUDDEN LOSS OF SPEED AND STEERING
    ASSIST WHEN DRIVING IN HIGHWAY TRAFFIC AND SUDDEN AND COMPLETE STALL
    WITHOUT WARNING. IN SOME INSTANCES, IT HAS BEEN REPORTED THAT THE
    VEHICLES WOULD RESTART, AND IN SOME CASES THE VEHICLES WERE TOWED. SOME
    CONSUMERS ALLEGE THAT AFTER HAVING THE ETM REPLACED THE NEW COMPONENT
    FAILED IN A SIMILAR MANNER. A PRELIMINARY EVALUATION HAS BEEN OPENED TO
    DETERMINE THE SCOPE, FREQUENCY, AND POTENTIAL SAFETY-RELATED
    CONSEQUENCES OF THE ALLEGED DEFECT.
     
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