~^ beancounter ~^ said:
so...i came into a bit of $ and i want to snag another
(my 2nd) s80 (prob on eBay) ... what years should i stay away from?
i think i will go w/the turbo....so...whay..2001 or newer?
did volvo get the "kinks" out by then? i am looking to
spend bet 10-15k...and...what is the deal on the radios,
i know the stock stereo system is good, but wasn't there
an option to upgrade to a bit better one? what is the details
on that?
thanx !!! richard / colorado
Richard, you just couldn't stay away from the S80's, eh? I recall that when
you owned one you posted how great and reliable it was right up until the
day you sold it. Then you started bashing them. Now you are ready for
another? Good! I think they are one of the best value's on the used market.
The HU-801 is the upgraded stereo, I have it and it sounds great. I could
live with or without the Dolby ProLogic which it comes with but the extra
speakers and higher powered amp are what make this option worthwhile. The
bass is incredibly natural sounding and surprisingly powerful. The HU-801
was designed by a real audiophile (I believe Volvo contracted the work out
of house) and the result is one of the best sounding stereos available in
any car.
Since you live in Colorado you may interested in the Dynamic Traction and
Stability Control (DSTC). Most S80's only come with STC. The DSTC uses
navigational gyroscopes and a steering wheel position sensor to detect the
beginning of a slide and take corrective action. It works incredibly well on
snow and ice and could even save your butt during evasive maneuvers in the
rain. It applies the brakes to regain control in ways that not even the best
driver could do (unless the car was equipped with four brake pedals and the
driver had near instantaneous reactions). You can tell if a car has this
option because there will be a button on the center console that says
"DSTC".
I'm always glad my S80 has the summer package. The retracting window shades
are nice but what I like the most is the infra-red reflecting windshield. My
car is always cooler on a hot sunny day then any other car I've tested it
against. If the car has the rear seat window shades and rear window shade it
also has the IR reflecting windshield unless it has been replaced at some
point. One caveat, with the IR reflecting windshield the only place a radar
detector will work at all is behind the dark band at the top of the
windscreen. Same for a GPS antenna but perhaps to a lesser degree.
As to the best years, much was made of the troubles with the 1999 model
year. Some of the early 2000 model years needed upgraded software to fix
certain issues and the 2000 (and 1999 I think) were recalled for new front
suspension bushings. However, as far as I can tell, the different years have
only very minor differences and I wouldn't avoid any of them (even the 1999)
assuming the recall work was done and the newer software was loaded. I
really think people were making a bigger deal out of the early issues than
was justified. I've met plenty of 1999 owners who are very satisfied with
the reliability. It is more important to get one that hasn't been left out
in the sun too much. That causes door and sunroof seals to dry out, airbags
to get old, and leather to harden.
Newer models (not sure of the deciding year) have body trim the same color
as the paint. I think it looks really cheap but I've also heard from those
who can't stand the black body molding which I find especially sharp looking
on my white 2000 T-6.
The S80 is a large car with an excellent driving suspension and needs good
tires to do it justice so make sure you allot an extra $600-$1100 if the car
needs new tires. Cheap out here and the car will not drive as it should. I
drive my car in a somewhat sporting fashion but not on a track so I
appreciate the more comfortable ride provided by the 16" wheels. It allows
for a taller sidewall. The 17" wheels will generally give a slightly crisper
ride at the expense of ride comfort, noise and tire cost. Of all the options
(except the engine) the wheel size has the greatest impact on the overall
character of the car. I recommend the 16" wheels unless you want to extract
as much cornering performance as possible and don't mind the disadvantages
listed above.
And the turbo is a good idea on this car since both engines get the same
fuel economy but the turbo feels and sounds so much quieter and the shifting
is much less obtrusive, less busy. The difference is night and day, much
more luxurious with the turbo. The 2.9 actually feels (sounds) more sporty
even though it has far less power.
Good luck!
Spanky
