strange M46 behavior

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by James Sweet, Jul 7, 2006.

  1. James Sweet

    James Sweet Guest

    The M46 tranny in my 242T has been acting up lately. The odd thing is
    that sometimes it's perfectly fine, other times it doesn't like to go
    into 1st at a stop and I have to jam it in. Sometimes if I try to
    downshift into 2nd or 1st while the car is still moving it glides right
    into gear, other times it grinds and goes "ker-chunk" as it engages. The
    clutch is fully disengaging, I'm positive of it, 3rd 4th, and reverse
    gears work perfectly 100% of the time, this is something internal.

    I have another gearbox I could swap in but I don't really feel like
    doing that yet if I don't have to. Any idea what's actually going on
    internally?
     
    James Sweet, Jul 7, 2006
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  2. James Sweet

    Mike F Guest

    I had this in my '83 turbo. A snap ring that retains the 1-2 hub in
    place on the main shaft has broken. The gears hold each other in place
    pretty much, but now two surfaces are rubbing together that are not
    designed to. They will wear each other out and this problem will get
    worse. As I remember, when you're in second gear, the side load caused
    by the angle cut of the gears forces the 1-2 hub rearwards, this load is
    taken up by the forward surface of first gear.

    This is a common problem - the replacement snap ring is 2 mm thick, as
    opposed to the 1.75 mm of the original - they say this makes all the
    difference!

    --
    Mike F.
    Thornhill (near Toronto), Ont.

    Replace tt with t (twice!) and remove parentheses to email me directly.
    (But I check the newsgroup more often than this email address.)
     
    Mike F, Jul 7, 2006
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  3. James Sweet

    James Sweet Guest


    Wow, I bet you're exactly right! I did notice the shifter seems to move
    backward slightly when I accelerate in 2nd, something I didn't notice
    happening with my other M46 equipped car.

    I suppose I should prep the new tranny to go in sometime this summer. It
    goes along with my plan to swap the rear axle with a later one
    incorporating the speedo sensor and installing a later year electronic
    speedo since the replacement M46 lacks the speedo drive and I'd like to
    go electronic anyway.
     
    James Sweet, Jul 8, 2006
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  4. James Sweet

    Mike F Guest

    In the meantime, minimize the use of 2nd gear. It's too bad that the
    failure of a $2 part (from Volvo, 10 cents elsewhere) causes 2 $500
    parts to destroy themselves.

    Of course, you could always swap the overdrives to get the speedo gear.
    As I'm sure you know, it's not too hard to pull the overdrive unit off
    under the car if you want to change it later.

    --
    Mike F.
    Thornhill (near Toronto), Ont.

    Replace tt with t (twice!) and remove parentheses to email me directly.
    (But I check the newsgroup more often than this email address.)
     
    Mike F, Jul 10, 2006
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  5. James Sweet

    James Sweet Guest


    Yeah I've done that before.

    I knew there was another reason I hadn't gotten to this yet, well
    actually two. First, the OD I have has a shot output bushing, the second
    is that the new tranny is from a 700 and setup for a hydraulic clutch. I
    have a master clutch cylinder I found in a manual 264, but I should put
    a new seal in it. I also need to figure out the plumbing and find the
    slave cylinder which I left at a friend's place and it got buried in the
    garage.
     
    James Sweet, Jul 11, 2006
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