Timing belt tensioner failure S70 T5 1998

Discussion in 'Volvo S70' started by bgrandjacques, Jun 30, 2006.

  1. I changed the timing belt at 60,000 miles and was getting ready to
    change it again at 130,000 miles. Unfortunately the tensioner failed at
    125,000 miles. The engine is shot.

    Only 2 cylinders are still good. Why cannot Volvo design cars where the
    engine survives in case of timing belt failure? I understand that other
    manufacturers can do it.

    This was my fifth Volvo -- I always had 240's since 1971 and could go
    to 200,000 or 250,000 miles on each one. I am sorry to see that the
    S70 is not such a strong design. I had the following problems:

    1. calipers on front left. $600
    2. calipers on front right. $600
    3. power steering $1,200
    4. bad ABS board $600
    5. leaking air conditioning heat exchanger $ 1,200

    This last problem is the end. I cannot afford to repair the car.
    Good bye Volvo.
     
    bgrandjacques, Jun 30, 2006
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  2. bgrandjacques

    Jamie Guest

    The old Gray Goose just ain't what she used to be, I guess. My 740
    8-valve does have a non-interference engine, and would be fine if the
    timing belt failed. My only guess is that performance has taken
    priority to these type things.

    Buy a newer Honda, Toyota, Nissan, VW -- and pick up an old Volvo to
    tinker with on the side.

    G'Luck!
     
    Jamie, Jun 30, 2006
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  3. Only 2 cylinders are still good. Why cannot Volvo design cars where the
    Who can do that with 4 valve technology, in the past with 2 valves it was
    possible.

    Niels
     
    Niels Bengaard, Jun 30, 2006
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  4. In <44a55037$0$12661$>,
    Most other manufacturers who use a DOHC design use a timing chain, which is
    less likely to give way than a timing belt. Although operation is much
    noisier.

    AC
     
    Aawara Chowdhury, Jun 30, 2006
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  5. Doesn't help anyway, the chain tensioner gives way instead and the
    pistons still hit the valves.
     
    Andrew McKenna, Jul 1, 2006
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  6. Only 2 cylinders are still good. Why cannot Volvo design cars where the
    Exactly, it was the tensioner that gave way not the belt. But it´s right
    that a chain is muck more strong.
    You never see broken belts on the 23 mm wide cam belts on 850 / S-V70
    models, it lasts 8 years or I believe 96000 miles.
    The problem in this case is most likely that the tensioner needs to be
    visually serviced from time to time and changed if looking bad.
    Furthermore you need to adjust / check the tension on it. Dont know if it
    was adjusted properly when he changed the belt at 60.000 miles.


    Niels
     
    Niels Bengaard, Jul 1, 2006
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  7. bgrandjacques

    M Guest

    Man, sorry to hear about the loss. This is coming from someone who also
    has a 1998 S70 T5 but was miraculously saved from the exact same disaster.
    One night, I was driving home, and the engine was making an odd sound. I
    had no clue it was the timing belt coming off its path. I was able to make
    it home w/o incident, and when I popped the hood, I could see that the
    belt had burned its way through 75% of the cover of the timing belt
    compartment.

    After great advice from this group that night, I rented a car for the rest
    of the week and had the car towed to my mechanic the following weekend.
    The tensioner had fallen apart and lost all its bearings. At this point, I
    would recommend that all mechanics replace the tensioner when replacing
    the belt. The extra cost is worth it!

    Mike
     
    M, Jul 1, 2006
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  8. bgrandjacques

    John Horner Guest

    Many modern engines are interference designs. If it were me, my big
    complaints would be that the tensioner failed. I've also heard stories
    of failed water pumps blowing up these engines. Ouch.

    John
     
    John Horner, Jul 1, 2006
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  9. Sadly, it is a common tale. I have known two people (one a family friend)
    whose Ford Escorts didn't survive until they were paid off because the water
    pumps seized. I forget which engine they used, but the damage was extensive.
    Our family friend had a neighbor (now her husband) take a look - there were
    chunks of valve seat embedded in the pistons.

    Mike
     
    Michael Pardee, Jul 2, 2006
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  10. bgrandjacques

    John Horner Guest

    It seems clear that driving the water pump from the timing belt is a
    very poor design. Much better to drive the water pump from the
    accessory belt like the alternator, p/s pump, etc. . That way a failed
    water pump is unlikely to grenade the engine.

    I wonder what genius engineers made the decision to put the water pump
    on the timing belt ????

    John
     
    John Horner, Jul 3, 2006
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  11. This last problem is the end. I cannot afford to repair the car.
    Funny to see all the people complaining only write one message and then no
    more from them.
    Why writing then?

    Niels
     
    Niels Bengaard, Jul 3, 2006
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  12. You and me both! I guess the theory was that the water pump would always
    turn when the engine did, and another belt wasn't necessary. In any event,
    they didn't ask us what we think.... :-(

    Mike
     
    Michael Pardee, Jul 3, 2006
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