V70 tyres

Discussion in 'Volvo V70' started by eastender, Jan 29, 2007.

  1. eastender

    eastender Guest

    I'm going to change the tyres on our 2001 V70 soon - they've got Pirelli
    P6000s on that seem OK although I've had punctures/valve problems in all
    of them and one is still leaking. Any other recommendations? We're in
    the UK.

    eastender, Jan 29, 2007
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  2. eastender

    Tim.. Guest

    I would still recommend P6000's. - I wouldnt have anything else on my
    vehicles, one of which is a 70 series Volvo.

    Tim.., Jan 29, 2007
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  3. If you understand some German: According to the tyretests published by the
    automobile clubs Austrian OEAMTC http://www.oeamtc.at/tests/reifen/ and the
    German ADAC
    the Pirelli P6000 is rated in the top class (very recommended) with the
    Bridgestone Turanza. Probably they published the same test. Another question is,
    whether you really want to pay the extra money for the top quality. There is a
    lot of other products in the tests still rated "recommended". Maloya Futura
    Primato was a tyre offering much for the Euro (pound) if you do not want to pay
    for the two top products. I would not go below that.

    I myself have put the P6000 on my 745 two years ago and will probably put
    another new set on my 855 this summer, too.

    viktor roskakori, Jan 29, 2007
  4. eastender

    eastender Guest

    We do mostly urban driving in inner London with lots of speed bumps and poor
    roads - I'm wondering if there may be more robust tyres for this sort of

    eastender, Jan 30, 2007
  5. eastender

    Roger Mills Guest

    In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
    Stick with 6000's - they're fine. They're no more likely to puncture than
    any other tyre - you've just been unlucky - or careless. Valve problems
    obviously have nothing to do with the type of tyre fitted - the valve is a
    totally separate item!
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  6. eastender

    Joerg Lorenz Guest

    I totally disagree! Get rid of the Pirellis. Always when I bought an
    850 or a V70 (had 5 in total so far) I insisted that the original
    Pirellis were changed to Michelins. Pirellis are never round and very
    difficult to balance. In addition they live hardly 50 % of a Michelin.


    Joerg (from Switzerland)

    P.S.: My wife hast the same tyres on her Renault but a heavy duty
    version which has only a VR-rating - which should be sufficient for
    the UK and the top speed for most of the V70s. Ask for them if you
    thin you would need them.
    Joerg Lorenz, Jan 30, 2007
  7. Where the Michelin is included in the tests published it really rates best for
    wear. But looses points on wet surface so it does not make it into the top
    viktor roskakori, Jan 30, 2007
  8. eastender

    Roger Mills Guest

    In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
    It is often the case that tyres which are good for wear are not very good
    for grip - particularly in the wet.

    The P6000 seems to be a good 'all round' tyre - which is possibly why Volvo
    fit them as original equipment.
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  9. In the US the '01 V70 XC came with Pirelli Scorpion S/T 215/65R16. It
    is a great tire. I have used Pirelli's in the past and even though they
    had good traction, they didn't last. The Scorpions last so well that I
    have used the exclusively for replacement tires also. They have good
    wet and dry traction and good wear characteristics and good speed
    performance. A great tire.
    Stephen Henning, Jan 30, 2007
  10. eastender

    eastender Guest

    Those tyres are cheaper here in the UK than the P6000s - they cost about £75
    a tyre (which is now almost $150...)

    eastender, Jan 31, 2007
  11. The Pirelli Scorpion is not a "summer" tire, it is listed as an "all year" tire,
    i.e. snow grip better than a usual summer tire but its properties on dry warm
    surfaces must be worse than a top summer tire.
    viktor roskakori, Feb 1, 2007
  12. We don't have summer tires in the US. We have regular, all-weather and
    snow tires. The Scorpions are all-weather.

    But "all year" tires are much better when it rains in the summer. Dry
    performance varies only slightly from tire to tire, but wet performance
    varies greatly, so only consider wet performance. The Scorpions have
    great rain performance, even toward the end of the tread life. I
    consider hydroplaning avoidance my first concern when buying new tires.
    Hydroplaning can be deadly.
    Stephen Henning, Feb 1, 2007
  13. Probably the equivalents are:
    regular = what we call in German "summer" tires (Sommerreifen)
    All weather = "all year" (Ganzjahresreifen)
    snow = "winter" tires. (Winterreifen)
    viktor roskakori, Feb 1, 2007
  14. eastender

    Joerg Lorenz Guest

    I strongly suggest to use specialist tyres for each season i.e. summer
    and winter. All weather tyres are always a compromise. It is proven
    wrong that All Weather-Tyres have the better aquaplaning-properties than
    summer(regular)-tyres. And the performance during the wet and snowy
    season of specialist tyres with softer rubber with a high content of
    Kieselsäure (I don't know the english expression for it) is ways beyond
    All Weather-Tyres. The draw back is a reduced speed rating (which is not
    relly important given the speed limits).

    It is a fact that in Hitech-Markets (as far as cars are concerned) All
    Weather-Tyres are not accepted because of their mediocre performance. In
    Europe the market share is close to zero on passenger vehicles.

    Joerg Lorenz, Feb 2, 2007
  15. eastender

    Bill Guest

    Eastender said he lives in the UK. Unless he lives in the Highlands of
    Scotland, or perhaps in the Pennines, there is rarely more than a few
    days of snow each winter. So special winter tyres are not really needed,

    I have a V70 AWD, fitted with P6000s. They have been fine so far, and
    when the time comes I shall probably replace them with the same.

    Bill, Feb 2, 2007
  16. eastender

    eastender Guest

    Yes indeed, in London, although amazingly we did have snow here the other
    day - the first I can recall for years. As for the P6000s, I'm still
    tempted to get something else - was at air line this evening and one of the
    rear tyres was down to 12psi and one of the fronts at 18psi, the other rear
    at 25psi and only one front at 29psi (I had them all up to 29psi a week and
    a half ago). I've had three of these tyres off and two small punctures
    fixed and three new valves and they've plenty of tread left but I'm losing
    my patience now.

    eastender, Feb 2, 2007
  17. It depends more on the individual tire than on the class of tire. Some
    "summer tires" have horrible aquaplaning properties and some have
    excellent. Same goes for "winter tires" and "all year" tires. Driving
    is always a compromise. Most winter days are sunny and dry. Some
    summer days are wet and slippery. That is why an compromise tire is
    best. It is always ready. When snow is on the ground, then a "winter
    tire" makes sense, and in Anchorage Alaska, that is just about all
    winter. But here in PA it is seldom. We usually have salt on the
    ground, not snow.
    Stephen Henning, Feb 2, 2007
  18. eastender

    Joerg Lorenz Guest

    Yes they are: Below 8°C summer rubber gets very hard and has no grip
    anymore. Snow Tyres are not only a question of snow, they are much
    better in wet conditions and low temps.
    Joerg Lorenz, Feb 2, 2007
  19. Regardless of which type of tires one uses, maybe the most important thing as
    usual is: not to turn off the program brain.exe while driving under nonoptimal
    weather and road conditions. Having the best summer or winter tire under your
    ass shouldn´t lure you into a false safety feeling.
    viktor roskakori, Feb 3, 2007
  20. Gee, that is 46°F. It gets colder than that in the American West at
    night on the hottest days of summer. In fact in Hell's Canyon, between
    Oregon and Idaho, I saw it get up to nearly 120°F (49°C) in the day and
    our water bags froze solid at night. That is not unusual in the "big
    sky" country. So I guess you wouldn't use summer tires at all here. We
    do and we don't have any problems. Maybe our tires are a little more
    accommodating that yours. Try some American "summer" tires, they do
    have grip below 8°C. If they didn't we couldn't drive to the top of
    Pike's Peak (14,110 feet) or to the top of Mauna Kea (13,796 feet)
    without sliding off the roads that don't have guard rails. So our
    summer tires must have some grip, in fact they have a lot of grip below
    8°C. By the way if you do drive to the top of Pike's Peak or Mauna
    Kea, take a coat. It is unbelievably cold up there on the hottest days
    of summer and the wind almost blows you over. For example on July 12,
    2006, on Mauna Kea in Hawaii, the temperature was 2C and winds were 40
    mph. Pikes Peak it is even colder.
    Stephen Henning, Feb 3, 2007
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