V70 tyres

[eastender]

I'm going to change the tyres on our 2001 V70 soon - they've got Pirelli
P6000s on that seem OK although I've had punctures/valve problems in all
of them and one is still leaking. Any other recommendations? We're in
the UK.

E.

 

[Tim..]

I'm going to change the tyres on our 2001 V70 soon - they've got Pirelli
P6000s on that seem OK although I've had punctures/valve problems in all
of them and one is still leaking. Any other recommendations? We're in
the UK.

I would still recommend P6000's. - I wouldnt have anything else on my
vehicles, one of which is a 70 series Volvo.

Tim.
..

 

[viktor roskakori]

I'm going to change the tyres on our 2001 V70 soon - they've got Pirelli
P6000s on that seem OK although I've had punctures/valve problems in all
of them and one is still leaking. Any other recommendations? We're in
the UK

If you understand some German: According to the tyretests published by the
automobile clubs Austrian OEAMTC http://www.oeamtc.at/tests/reifen/ and the
German ADAC
http://www.adac.de/Tests/Reifentest...ult.asp?ComponentID=139632&SourcePageID=8772#
the Pirelli P6000 is rated in the top class (very recommended) with the
Bridgestone Turanza. Probably they published the same test. Another question is,
whether you really want to pay the extra money for the top quality. There is a
lot of other products in the tests still rated "recommended". Maloya Futura
Primato was a tyre offering much for the Euro (pound) if you do not want to pay
for the two top products. I would not go below that.

I myself have put the P6000 on my 745 two years ago and will probably put
another new set on my 855 this summer, too.

Regards

 

[eastender]

I would still recommend P6000's. - I wouldnt have anything else on my
vehicles, one of which is a 70 series Volvo.

Tim

We do mostly urban driving in inner London with lots of speed bumps and poor
roads - I'm wondering if there may be more robust tyres for this sort of
thing.

E.

 

[Roger Mills]

In an earlier contribution to this discussion,

I'm going to change the tyres on our 2001 V70 soon - they've got
Pirelli P6000s on that seem OK although I've had punctures/valve
problems in all of them and one is still leaking. Any other
recommendations? We're in the UK.

E.

Stick with 6000's - they're fine. They're no more likely to puncture than
any other tyre - you've just been unlucky - or careless. Valve problems
obviously have nothing to do with the type of tyre fitted - the valve is a
totally separate item!
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Cheers,
Roger
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[Joerg Lorenz]

In an earlier contribution to this discussion,



any other tyre - you've just been unlucky - or careless. Valve problems
obviously have nothing to do with the type of tyre fitted - the valve is a
totally separate item!

I totally disagree! Get rid of the Pirellis. Always when I bought an
850 or a V70 (had 5 in total so far) I insisted that the original
Pirellis were changed to Michelins. Pirellis are never round and very
difficult to balance. In addition they live hardly 50 % of a Michelin.

http://www.michelin.co.uk/uk/front/affich.jsp?
codeRubrique=20060215120720

HTH,
Joerg (from Switzerland)

P.S.: My wife hast the same tyres on her Renault but a heavy duty
version which has only a VR-rating - which should be sufficient for
the UK and the top speed for most of the V70s. Ask for them if you
thin you would need them.

 

[viktor roskakori]

I totally disagree! Get rid of the Pirellis. Always when I bought an
850 or a V70 (had 5 in total so far) I insisted that the original
Pirellis were changed to Michelins. Pirellis are never round and very
difficult to balance. In addition they live hardly 50 % of a Michelin.

Where the Michelin is included in the tests published it really rates best for
wear. But looses points on wet surface so it does not make it into the top
category.

 

[Roger Mills]

In an earlier contribution to this discussion,

Where the Michelin is included in the tests published it really rates
best for wear. But looses points on wet surface so it does not make
it into the top category.

It is often the case that tyres which are good for wear are not very good
for grip - particularly in the wet.

The P6000 seems to be a good 'all round' tyre - which is possibly why Volvo
fit them as original equipment.
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Cheers,
Roger
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[Stephen Henning]

I'm going to change the tyres on our 2001 V70 soon - they've got Pirelli
P6000s on that seem OK although I've had punctures/valve problems in all
of them and one is still leaking. Any other recommendations? We're in
the UK.

In the US the '01 V70 XC came with Pirelli Scorpion S/T 215/65R16. It
is a great tire. I have used Pirelli's in the past and even though they
had good traction, they didn't last. The Scorpions last so well that I
have used the exclusively for replacement tires also. They have good
wet and dry traction and good wear characteristics and good speed
performance. A great tire.

 

[eastender]

In the US the '01 V70 XC came with Pirelli Scorpion S/T 215/65R16. It
is a great tire. I have used Pirelli's in the past and even though they
had good traction, they didn't last. The Scorpions last so well that I
have used the exclusively for replacement tires also. They have good
wet and dry traction and good wear characteristics and good speed
performance. A great tire.

Those tyres are cheaper here in the UK than the P6000s - they cost about £75
a tyre (which is now almost $150...)

E.

 

[viktor roskakori]

In the US the '01 V70 XC came with Pirelli Scorpion S/T 215/65R16. It
is a great tire. I have used Pirelli's in the past and even though they
had good traction, they didn't last. The Scorpions last so well that I
have used the exclusively for replacement tires also. They have good
wet and dry traction and good wear characteristics and good speed
performance. A great tire.

The Pirelli Scorpion is not a "summer" tire, it is listed as an "all year" tire,
i.e. snow grip better than a usual summer tire but its properties on dry warm
surfaces must be worse than a top summer tire.

 

[Stephen Henning]

The Pirelli Scorpion is not a "summer" tire, it is listed as an "all year"
tire,
i.e. snow grip better than a usual summer tire but its properties on dry warm
surfaces must be worse than a top summer tire.

We don't have summer tires in the US. We have regular, all-weather and
snow tires. The Scorpions are all-weather.

But "all year" tires are much better when it rains in the summer. Dry
performance varies only slightly from tire to tire, but wet performance
varies greatly, so only consider wet performance. The Scorpions have
great rain performance, even toward the end of the tread life. I
consider hydroplaning avoidance my first concern when buying new tires.
Hydroplaning can be deadly.

 

[viktor roskakori]

"viktor roskakori" <[email protected]> wrote:

We don't have summer tires in the US. We have regular, all-weather and
snow tires. The Scorpions are all-weather.

Probably the equivalents are:
regular = what we call in German "summer" tires (Sommerreifen)
All weather = "all year" (Ganzjahresreifen)
snow = "winter" tires. (Winterreifen)

 

[Joerg Lorenz]

Probably the equivalents are:
regular = what we call in German "summer" tires (Sommerreifen)
All weather = "all year" (Ganzjahresreifen)
snow = "winter" tires. (Winterreifen)

I strongly suggest to use specialist tyres for each season i.e. summer
and winter. All weather tyres are always a compromise. It is proven
wrong that All Weather-Tyres have the better aquaplaning-properties than
summer(regular)-tyres. And the performance during the wet and snowy
season of specialist tyres with softer rubber with a high content of
Kieselsäure (I don't know the english expression for it) is ways beyond
All Weather-Tyres. The draw back is a reduced speed rating (which is not
relly important given the speed limits).

It is a fact that in Hitech-Markets (as far as cars are concerned) All
Weather-Tyres are not accepted because of their mediocre performance. In
Europe the market share is close to zero on passenger vehicles.

Joerg

 

[Bill]

I strongly suggest to use specialist tyres for each season i.e. summer
and winter. All weather tyres are always a compromise. It is proven
wrong that All Weather-Tyres have the better aquaplaning-properties than
summer(regular)-tyres. And the performance during the wet and snowy
season of specialist tyres with softer rubber with a high content of
Kieselsäure (I don't know the english expression for it) is ways beyond
All Weather-Tyres. The draw back is a reduced speed rating (which is not
relly important given the speed limits).

It is a fact that in Hitech-Markets (as far as cars are concerned) All
Weather-Tyres are not accepted because of their mediocre performance. In
Europe the market share is close to zero on passenger vehicles.

Joerg

Eastender said he lives in the UK. Unless he lives in the Highlands of
Scotland, or perhaps in the Pennines, there is rarely more than a few
days of snow each winter. So special winter tyres are not really needed,
imho.

I have a V70 AWD, fitted with P6000s. They have been fine so far, and
when the time comes I shall probably replace them with the same.

Bill

 

[eastender]

Scotland, or perhaps in the Pennines, there is rarely more than a few
days of snow each winter. So special winter tyres are not really
needed, imho.

I have a V70 AWD, fitted with P6000s. They have been fine so far, and
when the time comes I shall probably replace them with the same.

Yes indeed, in London, although amazingly we did have snow here the other
day - the first I can recall for years. As for the P6000s, I'm still
tempted to get something else - was at air line this evening and one of the
rear tyres was down to 12psi and one of the fronts at 18psi, the other rear
at 25psi and only one front at 29psi (I had them all up to 29psi a week and
a half ago). I've had three of these tyres off and two small punctures
fixed and three new valves and they've plenty of tread left but I'm losing
my patience now.

E.

 

[Stephen Henning]

I strongly suggest to use specialist tyres for each season i.e. summer
and winter. All weather tyres are always a compromise. It is proven
wrong that All Weather-Tyres have the better aquaplaning-properties than
summer(regular)-tyres.

It depends more on the individual tire than on the class of tire. Some
"summer tires" have horrible aquaplaning properties and some have
excellent. Same goes for "winter tires" and "all year" tires. Driving
is always a compromise. Most winter days are sunny and dry. Some
summer days are wet and slippery. That is why an compromise tire is
best. It is always ready. When snow is on the ground, then a "winter
tire" makes sense, and in Anchorage Alaska, that is just about all
winter. But here in PA it is seldom. We usually have salt on the
ground, not snow.

 

[Joerg Lorenz]

Eastender said he lives in the UK. Unless he lives in the Highlands of
Scotland, or perhaps in the Pennines, there is rarely more than a few
days of snow each winter. So special winter tyres are not really needed,
imho.

Yes they are: Below 8°C summer rubber gets very hard and has no grip
anymore. Snow Tyres are not only a question of snow, they are much
better in wet conditions and low temps.

 

[viktor roskakori]

Driving
is always a compromise.

Regardless of which type of tires one uses, maybe the most important thing as
usual is: not to turn off the program brain.exe while driving under nonoptimal
weather and road conditions. Having the best summer or winter tire under your
ass shouldn´t lure you into a false safety feeling.

 

[Stephen Henning]

Yes they are: Below 8°C summer rubber gets very hard and has no grip
anymore. Snow Tyres are not only a question of snow, they are much
better in wet conditions and low temps.

Gee, that is 46°F. It gets colder than that in the American West at
night on the hottest days of summer. In fact in Hell's Canyon, between
Oregon and Idaho, I saw it get up to nearly 120°F (49°C) in the day and
our water bags froze solid at night. That is not unusual in the "big
sky" country. So I guess you wouldn't use summer tires at all here. We
do and we don't have any problems. Maybe our tires are a little more
accommodating that yours. Try some American "summer" tires, they do
have grip below 8°C. If they didn't we couldn't drive to the top of
Pike's Peak (14,110 feet) or to the top of Mauna Kea (13,796 feet)
without sliding off the roads that don't have guard rails. So our
summer tires must have some grip, in fact they have a lot of grip below
8°C. By the way if you do drive to the top of Pike's Peak or Mauna
Kea, take a coat. It is unbelievably cold up there on the hottest days
of summer and the wind almost blows you over. For example on July 12,
2006, on Mauna Kea in Hawaii, the temperature was 2C and winds were 40
mph. Pikes Peak it is even colder.