V70 XC, 2001 Good car?

Discussion in 'Volvo V70' started by jea3junk, Oct 9, 2006.

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    jea3junk Guest

    Hi all,
    I've been reading past posts regarding this subject and it is confusing
    to me (and I work on cars recreationally from time to time). I've found
    a V70 XC with 71K miles and it looks clean. Is this car reliable? I've
    read a lot about the ETS or EMS system requiring the software upgrade
    and the visocus vs. haldex coupling issues. Should I buy this car or am
    I looking for problems? I know that no one can make any guarantees but
    I thought I would solicit your opinions. What should I look for? how
    can I have a mechanic check for the sofware upgrade? what else should I
    look for.
    Thanks,
    Jim
     
    jea3junk, Oct 9, 2006
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    Shawn Guest

    I have an 01 V70 XC and I love it. What to look for:

    A yellow sticker on the ETM (electronic throttle module), this indicates
    that it has been replaced, the original has a white sticker. Volvo has
    extended the warranty on this item to 200K / 10 years. When this fails it
    can be drastic according to others. The car loses almost all power
    immediately and can drive only about 15 mph. Others have made a great deal
    of fuss about this but I see it as no different than breaking a timing belt
    while driving (which has happened to me) where you lose all power and cannot
    move the car safely from the road. I have also no knowledge of other
    manufacturers extending the warranty on timing belts because of the
    catastrophic failure of them like Volvo extended the warranty on the ETM.
    The ETM is located on the front of the engine behind the fan. Look for
    Magneti Marelli (sp?) on the sticker.

    I wouldn't say that the viscous coupling system has "issues", it's just not
    as good as the Haldex system. I've taken my XC off road in mud and snow and
    was not disappointed in its' performance. The front bevel gear has given
    other owners trouble but mine has not yet at 95K.

    The cooling fans (radiator) have also been recalled. I think that this
    should also have a yellow sticker on it as well.

    I have had trouble with the rear hatch wiring harness on mine. The wires
    tend to break at the drivers side hinge causing loss of the third brake
    light, rear wiper and my problem, inability to unlock the rear hatch. I
    haven't replaced the harness yet but I'm looking at about $180 US to do it
    myself.

    I highly recomment getting the latest transmission software from a Volvo
    dealer. It improves shifting and gets rid of the annoying way the car
    shifts into neutral at stop lights and going down long hills. It shouldn't
    cost more than $80 US for the upgrade.

    I'd recommend researching this site http://www.v70xc.com/ . LOTS of good
    information here for this car.

    As to which software version you have, I think only a Volvo dealer could
    tell you. Possibly a larger independent shop would have the VADIS or VIDA
    system that could read the car but this is not likely.

    Shawn
     
    Shawn, Oct 9, 2006
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    jea3junk Guest

    Shawn,
    Thanks a lot for all of the advice and history...I was really looking
    for a reason (rationale) to buy the car. I just didn't want to buy a
    car without doing some research and trying to determine the potential
    problems. The car looks super and will check under the hood for the
    yellow stickers on those components as you suggested....Thanks
    Jim
     
    jea3junk, Oct 10, 2006
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    Shawn Guest

    To that all I can say is this. My next car will be an XC70 and the one
    after that will be an XC70.

    Shawn
     
    Shawn, Oct 10, 2006
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  5. the ETS/EMS system was a problem, but Volvo finally found the solution.
    The viscous system was never a problem. The Haldex system is just a new
    system that works as good or better. Many new cars still use the
    viscous system. All Subarus use it and have for many years. It is a
    trouble free system.
     
    Stephen Henning, Oct 10, 2006
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    Robert Guest

    Go with the XC70. I have a 1998 and it is the best car I've ever owned
    for long trips; also, it's super-safe and the AWD system really
    performs in the snow, ice, and winter weather.
     
    Robert, Oct 10, 2006
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  7. They never made an XC70 in 1998. It was a V70 XC until the XC70 debuted
    in 2002. It was only a slight change from the V70. The new things were
    an additional rear skid plate and unique floor mats. The major changes
    were made in 2001 when the V70 XC was designed from the start to feature
    all-wheel drive and additional ground clearance. As such, it has its own
    front suspension and a slightly longer wheelbase than regular V70s, plus
    a wider track front and rear to accommodate larger wheels and tires. The
    result is a higher, wider stance that is much more aggressive-looking.
    The Cross Country's interior dimensions are identical to those of
    regular V70 wagons -- there's plenty of space in the front, while the
    second-row seat is bit tight on legroom.
    They are also good in rain. It is empowering to be able to accelerate
    quickly when the roads are wet and slick while the muscle cars sit and
    spin their tires. That is what grabbed my attention first.
     
    Stephen Henning, Oct 10, 2006
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    Inno Guest

    So, given the changes in 2001 and 2002, what is the "best" year for a
    used XC in terms of realiablity and features/function?

    ID
     
    Inno, Oct 10, 2006
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    Roadie Guest

    It is literally impossible to say over the internet whether a given car
    with 71k miles will reliable in the future without a lot of information
    about how the car is currently running and how well the previous owners
    kept ahead of problems, stayed with the maintenance schedule, etc.

    You best bet is to have the car throughly checked out by a mechanic
    experienced with Volvo's. If it checks out, I would expect that you
    will have a good car. Be sure to check the pricing out on Edmunds if
    you are in the USA.


    Above all review the owners maintenance records and have the car
    checked out by a competent mechanic.
     
    Roadie, Oct 10, 2006
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  10. 1999 & 2000 are very good years. 1998 was a bad year for reliability.
    Neither 2001 or 2002 were especially good years for reliability. I have
    a 2001 V70 XC and have had no real problems, but it is not one of the
    better years.
     
    Stephen Henning, Oct 10, 2006
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    Inno Guest

    I currently have a 1998 V70 (fwd) with over 220K on it. It has been a
    fairly reliable car with no major repair jobs needed, just usual brakes
    and front end wear. Still has original rad, alt., starter, battery,
    full exhaust, transmission, etc.

    Would you say that the 99 and 00 XC versions are better cars? If so I
    may look for a low-mileage example to replace my current car if/when I
    need to.

    ID
     
    Inno, Oct 11, 2006
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  12. That is what the owners said in surveys. They have a much better than
    average reliability rating.
     
    Stephen Henning, Oct 11, 2006
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    Roadie Guest

    Some cars, such as the early Volvo S80 got a reputation for poor
    quality because of problems that were discovered and repaired in
    warranty. I would expect that a five year old car would have any
    shake-down problems corrected.
     
    Roadie, Oct 11, 2006
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    Robert Guest

    Sorry my fault. Usually I remember that!
     
    Robert, Oct 11, 2006
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    coylerj Guest

    I've got a 2002 XC wagon, and though I've enjoyed driving it, I'm glad
    I had the 100K warranty. That warranty covered a new transmission,
    multiple sets of tie rods, an issue with the radio, and assorted other
    odds and ends. The warranty paid for itself many times over.

    I've now got 107K miles on the vehicle. Two of the rear seat belts
    won't loosen up; to replace both of those I've been quoted $1000 by the
    dealer, for seat belts! The 105K service is nearly $700. The front
    door panel on the passenger side is loose; the dealer claims it is
    "broken", and wants to charge me $800 for it.

    Etc. Etc. It's not cheap to maintain, I guess I'm saying, and it's
    certainly needed its share of maintenance.
     
    coylerj, Oct 25, 2006
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    coylerj Guest

    I've got a 2001 XC wagon, and though I've enjoyed driving it, I'm glad
    I had the 100K warranty. That warranty covered a new transmission,
    multiple sets of tie rods, an issue with the radio, and assorted other
    odds and ends. The warranty paid for itself many times over.

    I've now got 107K miles on the vehicle. Two of the rear seat belts
    won't loosen up; to replace both of those I've been quoted $1000 by the
    dealer, for seat belts! The 105K service is nearly $700. The front
    door panel on the passenger side is loose; the dealer claims it is
    "broken", and wants to charge me $800 for it.

    Etc. Etc. It's not cheap to maintain, I guess I'm saying, and it's
    certainly needed its share of maintenance.
     
    coylerj, Oct 25, 2006
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    John Horner Guest


    Unfortunately your experience seems to be common with modern Volvos.
    Lots of little stuff breaks and the cost of parts and labor is very high.

    John
     
    John Horner, Oct 26, 2006
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