What's in a Name?

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by jamiebabineaux, Feb 21, 2006.

  1. I found this interesting. I would love to know how Volvo's are decoded.

    http://money.cnn.com/2004/09/07/pf/autos/car_name_decoder/

    Super-secret car name decoder story
    You know what 'Mustang' means. How about 525i, TL, STS, ES300, 9-2X...
    September 11, 2004: 12:35 PM EDT
    By Peter Valdes-Dapena, CNN/Money staff writer

    NEW YORK (CNN/Money) - Remember when cars had names? Evocative,
    sometimes powerful, sometimes way off the mark, like Mustang, New
    Yorker, Bonneville and Capri. They meant something, or at least were
    easy to remember.

    Good old fashioned names are still with us, of course, and new ones --
    like Cobalt and Freestyle -- are still being introduced. But many
    luxury car companies have given up on naming their babies altogether,
    preferring alpha-numeric nomenclature systems that take the guesswork
    and focus groups out of deciding what to call a new model.

    "It's only the luxury brands that have the luxury of using
    alphanumerics," said Jim Singer, president of NameBase, a marketing
    company that has helped create names for some Kia, Suzuki and Renault
    cars. The implication: a flashy car can sell itself.
    Acura, starting in 1995, went from using names like Integra and Vigor
    for its cars to using combinations of two and three consonants like RL
    and TSX.

    "We would rather have more emphasis on the Acura brand," said Chris
    Naughton, a company spokesman.

    Singer is no fan of alphanumerics for car names.

    "You're missing a huge opportunity to communicate more about the
    vehicle," he said.

    Is it fast? Is it rugged? Is it big and comfy? Who knows?

    Still, while those serial-number car names may look like someone threw
    a spoonful of chrome-plated alphabet soup at a car's deck-lid, they
    really do have meaning. Yes, 530i really does have a story to tell.

    These are general rules, by the way, and there are some exceptions.
    BMW

    BMW's numbering system is fairly simple. Numbers, usually odd numbers,
    indicate the relative size and expense of cars. Everyone has heard of
    BMW's 3-series, 5-series and 7 series cars. In Europe, BMW sells the
    bargain-priced 1-series.

    The next two digits indicate engine size. The BMW 325i has a 2.5 liter
    engine. The BMW 330i has a 3.0 liter engine.

    The letter i is a holdover from times when fuel injection was something
    to brag about rather than something you would find in even
    run-of-the-mill economy cars. In Europe, where BMW sells diesel-powered
    cars, one can also see the 325d on the road.

    Sometimes two letters appear after the number, as in the 325Ci and
    325Xi. The first letter indicates a special type, as with the two-door
    325Ci coupe or the all-wheel drive 325Xi.
    Lexus

    Let's take, for example, the Lexus LS 430. The second letter in any
    Lexus car's name indicates the body style. An S is a sedan, an X is a
    sport/utility vehicle and a C is a convertible. The 3-digit number is
    based on the engine size in liters. So the LS 430 has a 4.3 liter
    engine, and a GS 300 has a 3.0 liter engine.

    The first letter in a Lexus name indicates the relative size and cost
    of the car. The higher in the alphabet the letter is, the higher the
    price. For some reason -- a Toyota spokesman wasn't sure why -- the R
    SUVs are an exception to this particular rule. They are actually the
    least expensive Lexus SUVs.

    Saab

    Every car Saab makes has a name that starts with the number 9.
    The 9 simply means "this is not a military vehicle."

    When the company was founded in the 1930s, Saab was an acronym for
    Swedish Aircraft, Ab (the Swedish equivalent of Inc.) After World War
    II, while Saab was still strictly an airplane company, it was decided
    that all civilian projects should be given numbers starting with 9. The
    Saab 90 and 91 were civilian aircraft.

    Saab's next project was a car. Since it was not a military vehicle, the
    car was given the number 92. Since the numbers always had to start with
    9 it didn't take too long before Saab was into three-digit, then
    four-digit, car names.

    In 1998 came the car that would have been the Saab 90,000. At that
    point, Saab went back to double digits, but the numbers were now
    separated. In ordinary text, the numbers are written with a hyphen in
    between, like this: 9-5. On the back of a Saab, the second digit is
    offset in a slightly different typeface.

    As with BMWs, the second number indicates the relative size and price
    of the vehicle. If it's followed by an X, as with the 9-2X, that means
    it has all-wheel drive.
    Acura

    Acura's two- and three-letter combinations mean absolutely nothing.
    They're just completely made-up combinations of letters.

    One exception that rule -- or lack of one -- predates Acura's overall
    move to letters. When the Acura NSX sports car was in development in
    the 1980s that name stood for New Sports Experimental.
    Cadillac

    Cadillac has dispensed with names like Seville and Deville, replacing
    them with three-letter combinations like STS and DTS. For those with
    fond memories of those old names, the first letter remains. The STS is
    the modern descendant of the old Cadillac Seville and the DTS is the
    rough equivalent of the Deville.

    The C in CTS, Cadillac's entry-level model, has no particular meaning.
    (It's Cadillac's naming scheme and they get to decide what things stand
    for, so it doesn't stand for Catera, either.) The letters TS stand for
    "touring sedan." For the performance version of the CTS, the company
    added a V to create the CTS-V.

    The XLR, a two-seat convertible, is the "luxury roadster" of the X
    series.

    Otherwise, an X on a Cadillac stands for "crossover." The RX in the
    name of Cadillac's SRX SUV stands for "reconfigurable crossover."

    Cadillac is in the process of doing away with the Escalade name on its
    SUVs but hasn't quite gone all the way yet. For now, each Escalade
    model has a 3-letter addendum on its name: EXV for the crossover
    version and ESV for the performance version.
    Mercedes

    The letters in front of Mercedes car names, like E320, indicate the
    "class." Sedans are C, for the least expensive, E or S, for the most
    expensive. SUVs are M or the more exclusive G. Convertibles are, in
    order of expense, the SLK, CLK and SL.

    Like BMW, Mercedes scrapes the bottom of the alphabetical barrel in its
    home continent selling the A-class which is not available here.

    The three numbers indicate engine size. An E320 has a 3.2 liter engine,
    for example.
     
    jamiebabineaux, Feb 21, 2006
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  2. jamiebabineaux

    volvo240drew Guest

    If you mean S, V, etc, I think it's S is for Sedan, V for Wagon, and C
    for coupe/convertible. XC is cross country. (4wd?) Then the number is
    just the series, like we had the 200, 900, 700 etc. I always assumed
    that the 70 series is the successor to the 850; I guess that the 80
    series is the succesor to the 90 series, which is the "new version" of
    the 960 but was only built for one year. The 40 series I have no idea
    about, but I believe they were supposed to be "entry level" like the
    old 240s back in the day. This is what I've been asble to figure out so
    far, but if I'm way off please correct me.

    drew
     
    volvo240drew, Feb 21, 2006
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  3. Mine is a 740 GLE, so I'd love to know that breakdown.

    Thanks!
     
    jamiebabineaux, Feb 21, 2006
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  4. jamiebabineaux

    volvo240drew Guest

    For the older ones, there was DL, GL, GLT, GT, GLE, and a few rare ones
    like TE. DL was De Luxe, the basic model. GL was Grand Luxe, which was
    a step up, and has different rims and often leather. GLE (Grand Luxe
    Executive) was the one with the most extras. GLT is Grand Luxe Touring,
    the "sporty" GLE, usually seen on turbos; it was just a slightly
    different trim package though I don't know specifics. GT was the racing
    type model, with foglights in the grille and racing stripes and
    whatnot. TE was Top Executive, the limo 240 from the 1970s-80s.

    In Sweden, I believe a plain "L" model was available; obviously the
    wayyyyy bottom of the line, as my 240 DL is pretty plain.

    drew
     
    volvo240drew, Feb 21, 2006
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  5. Drew,
    Many thanks for the reply and great info!
     
    jamiebabineaux, Feb 21, 2006
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  6. jamiebabineaux

    M.R.S. Guest


    What about

    S40
    V50

    S60
    V70

    S80
    XC90

    Do you see a pattern? I do. Odd numbers are derivatives of the same
    platform - 50, 70 are wagons... while 40, 60 are sedans. The only car that
    doesn't fall into that category is the C70... I don't know where/how that
    fits in (number wise).

    What do you think?

    ;)

    ok, and I could also always understand:

    740 - 4 cyl
    760 - 6 cyl (oh, except if you have the 4 cyl turbo!)
    780 - 6 cyl OR 4 cyl turbo... I always thought they had an 8 cyl in there!!!
    ;).. I didn't know any better when I was younger.

    Cheers
     
    M.R.S., Feb 22, 2006
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  7. The Volvo 120 series was originally named the "Amazon".
    They had to drop that name because a bicycle manufacturer
    was using it, but it still stuck unofficially in many
    circles.
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    Michael Cerkowski, Feb 22, 2006
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  8. jamiebabineaux

    User Guest

    In Volvospeak a 240 was built on a P20 or P200 chassis (same thing). The
    earlier models carried the designation a little further. A 244 would be
    a P20 chassis 4 cylinder 4 door. Other designations were 242DL,GT;
    245DL, GL, GLT; 262GL,C; 264DL, GL, GLE; 265DL, GL. In sales talk the
    sunroof and transmission options were added so that a 244GL with a
    sunroof, automatic transmission would be listed at the dealership as a
    244GLAS,which later became a GL4AS or a DL5O (DL wagon, stick,
    Overdrive) when the car lost the 2XX designation and just showed the 240
    logo on the sides and rear regardless of trim level or body style. The
    same process occured with the 700's. Eventually the GL designation came
    to mean any motor other than a normally aspirated four cylinder in the
    US. So that a 1984 760 GLT was a 4 cyl turbo. 700 series cars only came
    as GL, GLT or GLE versions in the US. Late production carried either the
    740 or 740GL logo. The two exceptions that I can think of were the 1977
    50th Anniversary Edition and the 91 940SE (which was a 960 with a turbo
    4cyl) that both carried the SE moniker, I guess for special edition.

    Bob
     
    User, Feb 22, 2006
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  9. Ok, but how about 740 diesel models (six cylinder)? No problem with 760
    turbodiesels. The Italian market also had a 780 with D24TIC engine rated
    with a bit more power than the 760 with D24TIC engine.

    All the best, Peter.

    700/900/90 Register Keeper,
    Volvo Owners Club (UK).
     
    Peter K L Milnes, Feb 23, 2006
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