10 valve or 20 valve

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by xntrick, May 30, 2005.

  1. xntrick

    xntrick Guest

    Whats the obvious way of knowing which is which on the 850 series?
    Does the 20 have more ooomph!!!?
    And finally is either type the one to avoid?
     
    xntrick, May 30, 2005
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  2. xntrick

    James Sweet Guest

    The 20 Valve will say so right on the engine in big obvious lettering. Yes
    it's significantly more powerful, and no not really any reason to avoid
    either, both require careful attention to the timing belt replacement
    schedule.
     
    James Sweet, May 30, 2005
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    Tim.. Guest

    10's will say "DOHC" and 20's will say "20 valve" on the black plastic cam
    cover.

    Also can determine which engine and number of valves from the engine code,
    which willbe on the cam belt cover on a white sticker:

    EG

    B 5 20 4 F x

    5 cyl 2.0 liter 4valves/cyl naturally asp sometimes
    extra digit present, sometimes not

    B5234T4 would be 5 cyl, 2.3liter, 4 valves, turbo. (in this case high
    pressure)

    As general rules:

    Avoid the both variants of the 2litre- especially with auto box; not really
    powerful enough

    2.5 10v auto, again struggles abit, but capable 8 out 10 times.

    2.5 10v manual entirely capable unless regularly fully loaded. Most common.
    Good engine, abit lazy in power delivery but a good slogger. Pulls well from
    2500-5000rpm. High gearing on manuals blunts it, but effortless cruiser once
    upto speed. Happier at 100mph than 70.

    Only thing to watch is the exhaust manifold is unique to this engine
    (B5252S ) and the flexi pipe occasionally begins to leak after 80-100k
    miles. Good 2nd hand manifolds are vvvv rare, new ones 400quid. Check
    carefully.

    2.5 20v- carries on where the 10valver becomes uninterested- after 5000rpm.
    mpg only very slightly lower than the 10v. Better choice if you want an auto
    or tow.

    2.5T best engine of the lot. Power at any revs, any gear. Deceptively fast
    and effortless. Mpg late 20's to early 30's. Rare. Front tyre wear a slight
    issue.

    2.3T5. at times violently powerful. Traction control attempts to control it
    but usually fails. Front Tyre wear a serious issue- manuals especially
    savage. Can be heavy on fuel, and slightly more susceptable to poor
    maintanance.

    With all engines- broken timing belt results in scrap engine. Not known as a
    belt breaker though. Belt change interval on cam belt cover. Regular fresh
    oil (every 5-6k miles) and fresh coolant every 24months and they'll all do
    200k without problems.

    Hydraulic tappets should be silent immediately from cold start. If not- walk
    away. Head gaskets occasionally go at over 100k- purely from lack of fresh
    coolant. Due to engine construction its neither quick nor cheap to change it
    and expect it to remain leak free done on the cheap.

    Manual clutches last well- over 100k miles usually (except on t5's) but
    again not cheap to replace due to complexity. A cheap job usually always
    results in recurring problems after.

    Autoboxes can pack up around 100k due to lack of specified fluid changes.
    Will go for along time if fluid is changed every ~20k miles though.

    Air con evaps often burst- dash out job to replace. ($$$$)

    Sagging rear susension, & knocking front wishbone joints suggest a hard
    life- about 250quid to sort.

    Condition and evidence of proper maintance is more important than mileage.

    Tim..
     
    Tim.., May 30, 2005
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