1997 2.5TDi Manual gearbox oil type ?

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Nick, Jun 5, 2007.

  1. Nick

    Nick Guest

    I am planning on changing the gearbox oil in my 1997 V70 2.5TDi
    with a manual gearbox....

    Can anyone tell me the recommended / best oil to use for the replacement please ?

    I guess if it had been listed there might be better oils available 10 years on...


    Thanks,

    Nick
     
    Nick, Jun 5, 2007
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    jch Guest

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    I recommend RedLine products. Very fine oils indeed. I put RedLine oil
    in the gearbox (M47) and the differential of my 1989 Volvo 240.

    Local suppliers usually carry that brand.
     
    jch, Jun 5, 2007
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  3. Nick

    Nick Guest

    Thanks JCH -

    However I should have said I am in the UK and don't think its commonly
    available over here.
    What weight / spec is manual gearbox oil ? And any idea the capacity of a
    drained box ?

    Thanks

    Nick
     
    Nick, Jun 5, 2007
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  4. Nick

    jch Guest

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    Have a look at the RedLine website about manual transmissions:
    http://www.redlineoil.com/products_gearlubricants.asp?categoryID=7

    For the differential look at:
    http://www.redlineoil.com/products_gearlubricants.asp?categoryID=6

    I believe i used MTL or MTL-90 for the tranny. The 1989 Volvo is now
    owned by my son. He has all the maintenance records.

    For the differential i used the RedLine 75W90 gear oil.

    I had a problem removing the filler plug on the M47 (manual 5 speed)
    tranny. Make sure that you can remove the filler plug *before* draining
    the box. I don't know what kind of tranny your car has. If it is
    similar to the M47, then you should be able to "overfill" it a bit. I
    recall getting about 2 liters of oil for the manual tranny. I added the
    oil with a plastic bottle and a plastic Tygon tube. By squeezing the
    bottle you can "push" the oil into the filler opening.

    For availability of RedLine products, have a look at:
    http://www.redlineoil.com/dealers.asp

    There are many locations where this product can be purchased in the UK.
     
    jch, Jun 5, 2007
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  5. Nick

    Nick Guest

    Hi,
    Thanks for the reply...

    Mine the V70 2.5 TDi is 5 speed ( + reverse!) manual on a 5 cyl engine,
    front wheel drive so I assume
    that engine and gearbox oil are separate and differential is "within the
    gearbox" and shares the same oil.
    I guess it dangerous to assume so will check with the dealer and get the
    correct oil / quantity and also
    (thanks for the tip) check I can undo the filler / level plug before
    draining.

    I found the Redline site and the UK dealers - none of which are within 40
    miles of me, but I guess any good
    quality brand will be fine.

    Thanks again,
    Nick
     
    Nick, Jun 5, 2007
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  6. Nick

    Tim.. Guest

    What spec of oil does the Redline cross-reference to ? I would suggest
    Fuch's, Morris's or Castrol would be brands to begin with..

    Also an S70 running on 10yr old oil..

    Tim..
     
    Tim.., Jun 6, 2007
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  7. Nick

    Nick Guest

    Redline doesn't seem to give product applications but there only seems to be
    around 75W to 90W anyway.
    Is it OK to slightly overfill gearboxes as JCH suggested and why would
    anyone want to ?
    I was going to look at Morris's and Castrol anyway but its the oil weight
    and volume I am trying
    to establish - dealer will be open now so can ring them

    Thanks,

    Nick
     
    Nick, Jun 6, 2007
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  8. It's okay but only some gearboxes benefit. My memory is dim, but one of the
    cars I had in the past needed it because the synchros were balky at the
    prescribed level. The downside is that the gears slow more quickly between
    shifts. Good to some extent while upshifting but a complication while
    downshifting.

    Mike
     
    Michael Pardee, Jun 6, 2007
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  9. The question concerning this specific Volvo Part Volvo P/N 11 61 423-7 Oil has
    been discussed with the title

    "M90 gearbox - Oil?" , a thread started on 20.4.2007 in this newsgroup.

    According to the VADIS for your car the same oil is recommended. You should
    find a clue in this thread.

    Regards
    Viktor


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    viktor weisshaeupl, Jun 6, 2007
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  10. I am planning on changing the gearbox oil in my 1997 V70 2.5TDi
    I believe that the Volvo gearbox oil for the M56 model is 5w30 oil, fully
    synthetic.

    Greetings Niels
     
    Niels Bengaard, Jun 6, 2007
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  11. I think the easiest method is to go to one of the big oil companies´ local
    website and question the "oilfinder" section with the data of your car.
    According to what I can distill from Nicks posting, he´s living in
    the UK, so I looked at the UK-website of Shell:

    http://www.shell.com/home/PlainPage...ricants/helix_new/app_lubematch_3May2007.html

    As a result:

    Shell in the UK suggests for your car:

    Make VOLVO
    Model S70, V70 2.5 Turbodiesel
    Engine DT
    Year 1997-01
    Application Recommendation Capacity (ltr)
    Engine (DT) HELIX PLUS 10W-40 (w) 6
    Manual Transmission SPIRAX ASX 75W-90
    Automatic Transmission DONAX TX 7.6
    Differential From Gearbox
    Coolant (50%) Glycoshell Concentrate (u) 12.2
    Wheel Bearings
    Transmission
    (AW55 50SN) REFER TO OWNERS HANDBOOK
    Brake Fluid Brake and Clutch Fluid DOT 4

    On the other hand the Swedish website suggests to contact technical support of
    Shell:
    http://www.shell.com/home/PlainPage..._lubricants/helix_new/app_choose_ga_0312.html
    Transaxel, manuell Volym 2,1 liter
    Intervall/förhållande: Standard
    Produkter: Kontakta vår tekniska support
    Kontrollera/Byt: Kontrollera 15000 km / 12 månader

    You might try also with one of the other big oil companies in the UK yourself.

    Regards
    Viktor
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    viktor weisshaeupl, Jun 6, 2007
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  12. Nick

    Tim.. Guest

    This is definately wrong- I know for a fact that the M56 'box doesnt use a
    heavy weight 75+ viscosity oil. Its more along the lines of a 5w-30 / 10w-40
    style, but we need to know the exact specification...

    Tim..
     
    Tim.., Jun 7, 2007
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  13. Interesting. When I was looking for the correct oil for my automatic gearbox, I
    contacted Shell in Austria and they called me back and I had an informative talk
    with a competent person. So maybe a call to Shell in the UK would shed light on
    the question. I wonder why Volvo constructed such a secret world around the oil
    specifications. Have other car companies similar secrets around such a simple
    thing as lubricants?

    Regards
    Viktor
     
    viktor weisshaeupl, Jun 7, 2007
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  14. Nick

    Nick Guest

    Not sure which "M number" box mine has, other than it is a manual, 5 speed +
    reverse, on a Feb 1997
    5 cylinder direct injection diesel and which takes 7 litres of engine oil(
    Oh - the Audi engine, someone once said)

    anyway...

    I spoke to my bloke today who is ex Volvo and whilst he didn't know, he rang
    his mate at a transmission company who
    confirmed your thoughts (Tim) pretty much exactly... this coupled with the
    dealer I dropped in on last night who showed
    me some Volvo booklet which said Part No "ZXDVVBHJK" or something ( i.e.
    nothing illuminating), although it did
    say Fully Synthetic and 2.1 Litres capacity, so I reckon for our climate
    either a good quality 5W-30 or 10W-40
    fully synthetic engine oil ( which he also said is commonly spec'd for
    manual gearboxes) will be what it ends up.. I'll keep
    researching though, out of interest, for a while....

    Anyone else ??

    Thanks all

    Nick
     
    Nick, Jun 7, 2007
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  15. Nick,

    I also have a 2.5 TDi with manual, though a 98 V70, and also want to
    change the gearbox oil. Did you do the job as yet, and if so, what do
    I need to know? Did you end up using engine oil?

    Bill
     
    bill.schweitzer, Jun 15, 2007
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  16. Nick

    Nick Guest

    Hi Bill,

    Yes - done it and I got several replies saying it is just a good
    quality fully synthetic engine oil, so that's what I used and its
    been fine for about 9 days and 500 miles - seems to be just like it
    was before...

    Nick
     
    Nick, Jun 15, 2007
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