2001 D5 S80 - Tow Bar and electrics

Discussion in 'Volvo S80' started by David, Jan 22, 2010.

  1. David

    David Guest

    HI folks

    Looking to buy an S80 as per the header.
    It is at a distance so cannot just nip round for a look.

    Does any one know if the 2001 Volvo tow bar came with thirteen or seven pin
    electrics in the UK

    TIA

    Dave
     
    David, Jan 22, 2010
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  2. David

    Roger Mills Guest

    In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
    I don't know for sure, but would guess 7 pin. Is the car you're (possibly)
    buying already equipped for towing? If so, are you sure that it's got the
    official Volvo towbar and electrics - because there are 3rd party
    alternatives available?
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    Roger Mills, Jan 22, 2010
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  3. Word of warning: I had a 3rd party towbar fitted to my 850 by a muffler
    and tow-bar shop. The clowns who installed it, wired the trailer
    electrics into the rear lights. BEHIND the control relay ... 3 years
    later, the relay melted down.
    $150 for a new 2nd hand relay from a wrecker's yard, $300 for the auto
    electrician to set things right, and the stink from the melted relay
    lingered for a year or so in the boot. I would've been better off
    getting the Volvo shop to put an original part in .....

    f.w.i.w. -Peter
     
    Peter Huebner, Jan 22, 2010
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  4. David

    Roger Mills Guest

    In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
    Yes, indeed. You can't just wire the trailer lights in parallel with the
    car's rear lights because that will upset the bulb failure unit - which is
    presumably the 'relay' to which you refer. That doesn't mean that you *have*
    to use the official Volvo wiring kit - there *are* satisfactory
    alternatives, as long as you - or whoever installs it - knows what you/they
    are doing.

    Most current third party systems provide their own relay, which is triggered
    by a very small current taken from the existing lamp circuits, and thus
    doesn't upset anything. My 2007 V70 is equipped with such a system.
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    Roger Mills, Jan 22, 2010
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  5. David

    David Guest

    Yes it equipped for towing with a genuine Volvo tow bar. I have physically
    seen the car, test drove it etc. but forgot to look at the electrics. It just
    did not occur to me until a friend said it could be 13 pin.

    It is 100 plus miles trip to go see the car I live in the far North of
    Scotland. Hey ho guess I'll find out on Wednesday when I pick it up!

    Dave
     
    David, Jan 23, 2010
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  6. David

    Roger Mills Guest

    In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
    What are you going to tow with it, and what plug(s) does that have? Assuming
    the car is 13pin, and that you have a caravan with 2 x 7-pin plugs, you can
    get Y-piece adapters which should work ok. Or, if you only want to tow *one*
    trailer/caravan, you could rewire that with a 13-pin plug.

    My ancient caravan and small trailer (which I use for taking rubbish to the
    tip) both have 7-pin plugs - so I'm very happy that my 2007 V70 (with 3rd
    party electrics) has 2 x 7-pin sockets. [I have modified the caravan wiring
    to the latest spec - to separate the earth returns on the 7S etc.]

    If you have a caravan, what age is it? ISTR that the 7S wiring spec changed
    in about 1998 so - whatever combination of plugs and sockets you end up
    with, you'll need to make sure that everything is compatible, and adjust if
    necessary.
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    Roger Mills, Jan 24, 2010
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  7. David

    David Guest

    I will be towing a 2006 Bessacarr. Well aware of the specs etc. I will
    re-wire the caravan to 13 pin if the car has that. Not keen on adapters.

    Dave
     
    David, Jan 24, 2010
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  8. David

    Roger Mills Guest

    In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
    Should be fine . . . unless you ever want to tow amything else.
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  9. David

    David Guest

    How does the rear suspension cope when towing your caravan?

    Been towing with 4x4 for 20 year so need to trim the noseweight to get down to
    75kg!

    Dave
     
    David, Jan 24, 2010
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  10. David

    Roger Mills Guest

    In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
    No problem - but the rear suspension on the V70 (estate) is almost certainly
    stiffer than that on the S80 (saloon).

    I have a real struggle to get my noseweight down to 75Kg. For example,
    there's no way I can carry more than one gas bottle in the front locker of
    my Bailey Pageant Magenta, and stay legal!
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  11. David

    David Guest

    I was out this PM trying things out with the gauge. Found exactly that!
    Going to try the van on the car before making adjustment!

    Do you have the D5? I have read that the suspension on the D5 was firmer than
    the petrol versions.

    Dave
     
    David, Jan 24, 2010
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  12. On these cars, the towing wiring is connected to the rear fuse box with
    a plug rather than directly wired in. If the car has 13-pin electrics,
    you should be able to purchase the 7-pin version of the towbar wiring
    and swap it in.
     
    Richard Crewe, Jan 25, 2010
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  13. David

    David Guest

    Thanks Richard but rewiring the van is by far the cheaper way to go and 13 pin
    is a better solution in my view.

    Dealer contact made at last. I now know it is a 13 pin so can buy the bits I
    need!

    Thanks folks for your replies

    Dave
     
    David, Jan 25, 2010
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  14. David

    Roger Mills Guest

    In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
    Yes, my 2007 V70 is the D5 Special Edition Sport - with the 185PS engine and
    6-speed manual gearbox[1]. I think the 'Sport' models have firmer
    suspension, anyway. TBH, the ride when driving around solo is pretty
    appalling, but load it up - and it comes into its own.

    [1] Suprisingly, it will chug along in 6th on a motorway quite happily with
    the caravan in tow, with the engine only doing about 2000 RPM at relatively
    light throttle
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    Roger Mills, Jan 25, 2010
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