20MPG :( with 240 sedan Brisbane Australia

Discussion in 'Volvo 240' started by snoopy42, Jul 24, 2005.

  1. snoopy42

    snoopy42 Guest

    i get about 20mpg (350k's for 50 litres) from my 89' 240 sedan, sounds a
    touch excessive, its got new plugs, new air cleaner eliment, new plug lead,
    haven't used the a/c and its mainly highway driving at approx 100kph. i
    cleaned the throttle body and drive carefully.

    any ideas??? sounds like i should get it checked out, what do you think?

    a good mechanic in brisbane australia would be good, someone told me 'comet'
    at albion is ok, i live on the northside of brisbane.

    thanks guys in advance :)
     
    snoopy42, Jul 24, 2005
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    Al Dente Guest

    when I first got my '89 240 wagon about 4 years ago, I was getting around
    21MPG... I gradually increased my tire pressure to about 36PSI, and I
    routinely get around 25MPG, same kind of driving. Before you invest in a lot
    of expensive work, you might give that a try. The ride is a little harsh on
    rough roads, but handling is fine and the tires hardly wear at all! Just a
    thought....

    m9876c at yahoo dot com
    Atlanta, GA
     
    Al Dente, Jul 24, 2005
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    mark Guest

    When I had a 240 GLE with I think the B230 engine and I think a
    Stromberg carb I found the throttle needle needed replacing
    periodically.A sign this was needed was fuel consumption went from
    around 27mpg to 20mpg.
    regards,Mark.
     
    mark, Jul 26, 2005
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    snoopy42 Guest

    mine has efi and is a b230 engine
     
    snoopy42, Jul 26, 2005
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    snoopy42 Guest

    i pumped the tires upto 36psi, see what happens!!!
     
    snoopy42, Jul 26, 2005
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    jg Guest

    Spark timing is the only thing I ever had make a significant difference to
    mpg's on a car, if it's out by much. That and heavy loads and/or the strong
    cross-winds round Caiguna/Widgiemultha between Norseman & Eucla.
     
    jg, Jul 26, 2005
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    Randy G. Guest

    350km = 218 miles
    50 liters = 13.2 gallons
    218 / 13.2 = 16.5mpg

    That is horrible for a 240- about half (or less) of what it should be
    getting on the highway. Check that the E brake and the service brakes
    are not dragging. Check the temps of the wheels after a drive- they
    should be about the same (an IR thermometer is great for that). Also
    check for fuel leaks, and you might want to look into a locking fuel
    cap as I would suspect someone is syphoning fuel from your car.

    Also check the gas or try another brand. There have been incidents of
    stations putting cheap additives into the gas to stretch profits.

    Running that much fuel through the motor is VERY bad for the motor. It
    will wash lubrication off the cylinder walls and will cause excessive
    wear on the rings and cylinder walls.

    Also, verify that your odometer is operating accurately using
    mileposts along a stretch of roadway.


    __ __
    Randy & \ \/ /alerie's
    \__/olvos
    '90 240 Estate - '93 960 Estate
     
    Randy G., Jul 26, 2005
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    jg Guest

    In Australia they are imperial gallons
    50 l = 10.999 imp gal
     
    jg, Jul 26, 2005
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    Randy G. Guest

    For goodness sakes!!! I have enough problems with the ridiculous US
    standards of measurements without throwing IMPERIAL gallons into the
    mix! Next we will be discussing Whitworth! ;-)

    Scotty to bridge: "The Newton Meters are off the scale Captain. I
    don't know how much longer I can hold it."

    Captain to Scotty: "Keep your personal lifestyle out of it and just
    fix the thing, Scotty!"


    __ __
    Randy & \ \/ /alerie's
    \__/olvos
    '90 240 Estate - '93 960 Estate
     
    Randy G., Jul 27, 2005
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    AJS Guest

    Read the ECU codes. Reset and run. Then read after a few hundred Kms. Check
    the O2 sensor (under $150 for a replacement make sure it meets or exceeds
    the OEM specs.) I would also check the throttle body gasket, flame trap and
    assorted other items. I can get my 90 240 auto down to about 375-400 off a
    tank IF I am flat out and using the AC. Your not driving like this. Normal
    mileage for me is about the 450 mark with some use of the AC and not driven
    sedately. I can get 500 on the rare occasions I can stop myself making full
    use of the modified suspension I have. Highway driving significantly
    improves this and the best my car has done was about the 8-9L per 100Kms but
    I wasn't the driver for this.



    AJS
     
    AJS, Jul 27, 2005
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    snoopy42 Guest

    looks like its off to the mechanic to have the 240 checked out, let you all
    know what the outcome is :)
     
    snoopy42, Jul 27, 2005
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    snoopy42 Guest

    just noticed that the engine check light doen't work, maybe its been taken
    out, we will see what happens when i go to the mechanic soon :) see what
    hides underneither it, problem wise . . . . .
     
    snoopy42, Jul 29, 2005
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    Steve Guest

    Sure scotty did not say Erg, the meters...


     
    Steve, Jul 30, 2005
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    Peter Guest

    Hi,

    we only get 420k for the same out of our 90 740 16v, Volvos do not get good
    fuel economy period.
    But we live in the hills area Victoria and a lot of short runs so 350 for
    Brisbane area sounds bad unless you plant the foot a lot.
    V6 Camry gets 550k home to city n back. Volvo still only got about 420 for
    the same run.

    rgds

    Peter
     
    Peter, Jul 30, 2005
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    snoopy42 Guest

    well they found the problem . . . . . airflower meter has seen better days
    and needs replacing and the O2 sensor near the catalytic convertor needs
    replacing. . . they said the engine check system had been disconnected so
    it wouldn't show any faults when it was on . . . . very sneaky of the past
    owner . . . so i'm looking to have a better 240 soon . . . will let you all
    know how it goes whn i get the brick back tomorrow :) now i maybe able to
    call her the "flying brick with better economy" :)
     
    snoopy42, Aug 1, 2005
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    snoopy42 Guest

    well . . .the mechanic fixed that problem . . . but . . . he told me that it
    looses power in 2nd gear (auto) unless its shifted manually to 2nd, which i
    have noticed, (thought that must be 'normal' for a 240) and the torque
    converter needs to be replaced . . . more $$$$ :( . . . anyone else had this
    problem with a 240 auto sedan? . . . thanks in advance for any advice :)

    he did say the motor is good now, well thats something good to hear :)
     
    snoopy42, Aug 2, 2005
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    Andy Coles Guest

    Good you got it fixed. Your petrol prices still rocketing in Oz - at least
    petrol in Bris is still lower than in NSW.
     
    Andy Coles, Aug 3, 2005
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    snoopy42 Guest

    well she's all fixed, new lamda sensor and airflow meter, goes like a dream,
    even better than before :) and they fixed the auto transmission, it was a
    just the kickdown cable, that was too short, didn't belong to this model . .
    .. .

    just one question for the group please:-

    is there a lamda warning light on the dash? and when does it come on, when i
    turn the iginition on and all the other warning lights come on, and then
    they all go off when the engine is started, or does it only come on when
    there is a fault in the system? where is the light located on the dash, or
    is it somewhere else?

    thanks guys :)
     
    snoopy42, Aug 4, 2005
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    Mike F Guest

    If you have the diagnostic connector "blink boxes" under the hood, then
    you should have a lambda light that works as you described in the first
    part of your paragraph above. See
    http://www.brickboard.com/FAQ/700-900/EngineOBDCodes.htm
    All our 240s got this feature for the 1989 model year.

    --
    Mike F.
    Thornhill (near Toronto), Ont.

    Replace tt with t (twice!) and remove parentheses to email me directly.
    (But I check the newsgroup more often than this email address.)
     
    Mike F, Aug 4, 2005
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    Randy G. Guest

    You owe that guy a six pack (a "sixer"?). You could have spent a lot
    of $$$ trying to figure out that shifting problem. If he doesn't
    drink, let him marry your sister! ;-)

    __ __
    Randy & \ \/ /alerie's
    \__/olvos
    '90 245 Estate - '93 965 Estate
    "Shelby" & "Kate"
     
    Randy G., Aug 5, 2005
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