240 '93 starter problem

Discussion in 'Volvo 240' started by Andrea1717, Jan 11, 2008.

  1. Andrea1717

    Andrea1717 Guest

    Hi !
    I have a problem with the starter. In fact when the engine it's hot the
    starter doesn't turn because the solenoid doesn't close the contact. If I
    wait a quarter of hour it goes regularly.
    I tryed to supply directly the solenoid from the battery while happens how I
    saied before and it's all normal!
    So I think that's a relay's problem but I don't know if there is a starter
    relay and, if so, where is it??

    Thank you and enjoy your VOLVO!!
     
    Andrea1717, Jan 11, 2008
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  2. Andrea1717

    Mr. V Guest

    The 240 does not have an external relay, it is all contained within
    the solenoid.

    Assuming your cable connections are clean, the problem is within the
    starter / solenoid assembly and it will have to be unbolted and either
    repaired or replaced.
     
    Mr. V, Jan 11, 2008
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  3. Andrea1717

    John Horner Guest

    The best solution is to replace the starter/solenoid assembly with a
    rebuilt one. Getting the upper bolt out can be a pain and will require
    the creative use of socket wrench extensions, etc. Also the thing is
    heavy, so don't drop it on yourself pulling it out!

    John
     
    John Horner, Jan 11, 2008
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  4. Andrea1717

    Andrea1717 Guest

    .....But I think that the solenoid it's ok because if I give tension directly
    by a bridge from the battery to the solenoid it closes the contact and the
    starter turns regurarly . So I think that the problem It's between the key
    block (I don't know the right name in english....where you put the key for
    switching on the car) and the solenoid.
     
    Andrea1717, Jan 13, 2008
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  5. Andrea1717

    James Sweet Guest

    Is the car an automatic? If so, check the neutral safety switch in the
    shifter assembly. Try wiggling the shifter when the car won't start.
     
    James Sweet, Jan 13, 2008
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  6. Andrea1717

    Andrea1717 Guest

    I repeat that the problem occours only when the engine is hot after 3 or 4
    hour

    Thanks, Andrea!
     
    Andrea1717, Jan 13, 2008
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  7. Andrea1717

    z Guest

    It's possible that the solenoid doesn't get quite the same current
    through the "normal" setup as it does with your "hotwire". And,
    certainly, solenoids do get sticky, and often when they are hot.
    So..... wait until the next time it refuses to start, then jump out
    with the 12 volt bulb with long wires with clips on the end which you
    have prepared, and clip it to the solenoid connection and the ground
    and stick the bulb where you can see it from inside the car, then try
    to start it again, and if the bulb lights you know that the voltage is
    reaching the solenoid and the solenoid is bad, and if the bulb doesn't
    light you know that something before the solenoid is bad. Like the
    relay.

    oh by the way, how is the battery? sometimes a battery can be almost
    dead, and possibly in that case the difference between the normal
    setup and your hotwire setup might be enough to get the solenoid to
    close. Maybe. Possibly.
     
    z, Jan 14, 2008
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  8. 240 Starter assembly is one of the easier things to do by the average
    do-it-yourselfer. It's about 1 step above cleaning the automatic window
    switches and costs about $12.

    All (or nearly all) 240s and 740s and 940s can share the same starter motor.
    At your local pic-n-pull junk yard, take your ratchet wrench set, including
    a few short and long extenders and one of those ratchet wrench u-joints that
    can wobble a bit. I think it's only 2 bolts that you figure out when you
    get under there. Experiment with different combinations of wrench extenders
    (4 inch, 10 inch, maybe even 2 10-inch extenders).

    I pulled about 4 of these, as they also fit 140, 122, and 1800, all of which
    I needed on projects.

    Installing is reverse of removal.
     
    Pat Quadlander, Jan 19, 2008
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  9. Andrea1717

    James Sweet Guest

    One thing about these is it's a lot easier to change on a manual
    transmission car than automatic. The upper bolt on the autos is a really
    tight fit. The 700/900 series has a lot more room there.
     
    James Sweet, Jan 19, 2008
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