240 air conditioner problem

Discussion in 'Volvo 240' started by jsegura525, Jul 24, 2007.

  1. jsegura525

    jsegura525 Guest

    Hello,
    the air conditioner on my 240 is having issues.
    The fan does not even turn on for air, heat or defrost.
    Where would I start to fix the fan motor?
    Is there a fuse within the air fan unit?
    When I flick the air conditioner blue button is does not
    even light up.
    I checked the main fuse box and the fuse is fine.


    Also, how would I figure out if my car has the new or
    older version of air conditioner?

    Any advise would be helpful.
    Thanks,

    Joseph
     
    jsegura525, Jul 24, 2007
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  2. jsegura525

    NoOne Guest

    If I remember correctly, only the 93 240 had the "new" gas. Sorry,
    cannot help you with the rest.
     
    NoOne, Jul 25, 2007
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  3. jsegura525

    James Sweet Guest

    Unless it has already been converted, the car has the old R-12. Conversion
    is not terribly difficult though, might even work out to less than replacing
    the old O-rings and having it charged with expensive R-12.

    First thing to do is wire brush the fuse holders and check the ends of the
    fuses for oxidation. That fuse box is one of the worst parts of the
    otherwise solid 240 design.
     
    James Sweet, Jul 25, 2007
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  4. jsegura525

    c.fiedler Guest

    I would agree with this response. For years I replaced all the fuses
    on my 240s with GBC fuses of the proper amperage. These are glass
    bodied and have good (chromed?) ends. They never exhibit the corrosion
    factor of the OEM ceramic fuses. I recently had an occasion to find,
    however, that it's not always obvious when they've blown.
     
    c.fiedler, Jul 25, 2007
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  5. jsegura525

    Andy Guest

    Hi Joseph,

    That advice re the 240 fuses is well worth considering. I've had no further
    corrosion problems with fuses since wire-brushing the fuse holders and
    replacing all the original ceramic fuses with *ceramic* types with
    *brass\copper* ends. This permits copper to copper contact thus eliminating
    the galvanic action between the original dissimilar metals. (At least
    that's my theory...........) Also it still permits easy checking for blown
    fuses. Our local Volvo dealer doesn't stock them. I had to get them from a
    VW supply house, sad to say.

    Finally a coating of dielectric grease on both the ends of the fuses and the
    fuseholder contacts completes the job, unless you also want to ensure better
    contact by judicious bending of the fuseholders.

    Good Luck.
    Andy I. ('58 445 wagon; '65 122S wagon; '67 121; '74 142; '74 145 wagon;
    '86 245 wagon; '93 244 Classic wagon.)



    : >
    : >Unless it has already been converted, the car has the old R-12.
    Conversion
    : >is not terribly difficult though, might even work out to less than
    replacing
    : >the old O-rings and having it charged with expensive R-12.
    : >
    : >First thing to do is wire brush the fuse holders and check the ends of
    the
    : >fuses for oxidation. That fuse box is one of the worst parts of the
    : >otherwise solid 240 design.
    : >
    : I would agree with this response. For years I replaced all the fuses
    : on my 240s with GBC fuses of the proper amperage. These are glass
    : bodied and have good (chromed?) ends. They never exhibit the corrosion
    : factor of the OEM ceramic fuses. I recently had an occasion to find,
    : however, that it's not always obvious when they've blown.
    :
     
    Andy, Jul 25, 2007
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  6. jsegura525

    jsegura525 Guest

    HELLO,
    I checked the fuses (#3-heater fan and #12-air conditioner) and both
    check out fine.
    The #3 only seems to control the heater fan. The #12 fuse besides
    controlling the air unit,
    also controls the seat belt reminder
    and the seat belt reminder does ring, so that fuse is working fine.
    Is there a relay box or another fuse box where the heater fan/air fan
    and/or the air conditioner unit
    might be having a problem. I followed the wiring from the R-132 unit
    and it continues around near
    the battery then "seems" to continue to some fan that sits in front of
    the radiator (I have never seen
    this fan before, what is it? Why do I have two fans at the radiator?)
    Another thing.... the air conditioner
    switch (snow flake/blue) does not light up either.....
    PLEASE HELP, IT IS IN THE 90'S HERE IN NEW MEXICO....
    Thanks,
    Joseph
     
    jsegura525, Jul 26, 2007
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  7. jsegura525

    jsegura525 Guest

    HELLO,
    I checked the fuses (#3-heater fan and #12-air conditioner) and both
    check out fine.
    The #3 only seems to control the heater fan. The #12 fuse besides
    controlling the air unit,
    also controls the seat belt reminder
    and the seat belt reminder does ring, so that fuse is working fine.
    Is there a relay box or another fuse box where the heater fan/air fan
    and/or the air conditioner unit
    might be having a problem. I followed the wiring from the R-132 unit
    and it continues around near
    the battery then "seems" to continue to some fan that sits in front of
    the radiator (I have never seen
    this fan before, what is it? Why do I have two fans at the radiator?)
    Another thing.... the air conditioner
    switch (snow flake/blue) does not light up either.....
    PLEASE HELP, IT IS IN THE 90'S HERE IN NEW MEXICO....
    Thanks,
    Joseph
     
    jsegura525, Jul 26, 2007
    #7
  8. jsegura525

    jsegura525 Guest

    HELLO,
    I checked the fuses (#3-heater fan and #12-air conditioner) and both
    check out fine.
    The #3 only seems to control the heater fan. The #12 fuse besides
    controlling the air unit,
    also controls the seat belt reminder
    and the seat belt reminder does ring, so that fuse is working fine.
    Is there a relay box or another fuse box where the heater fan/air fan
    and/or the air conditioner unit
    might be having a problem. I followed the wiring from the R-132 unit
    and it continues around near
    the battery then "seems" to continue to some fan that sits in front of
    the radiator (I have never seen
    this fan before, what is it? Why do I have two fans at the radiator?)
    Another thing.... the air conditioner
    switch (snow flake/blue) does not light up either.....
    PLEASE HELP, IT IS IN THE 90'S HERE IN NEW MEXICO....
    Thanks,
    Joseph
     
    jsegura525, Jul 26, 2007
    #8
  9. jsegura525

    z Guest

    Did the fan motor make noise for a while before dying?
    One of the things that does go wrong with 240s is the fan motor; they
    are famously hard to get to to replace. Do some googling to see.
    I dont' have a light-up air conditioner blue button on my 240, though,
    just a twisty knob with no lights at all.
     
    z, Jul 26, 2007
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  10. jsegura525

    z Guest

    In the Olden Dayes... (maybe not quite as Olde in Europe?), you used
    to be able to buy dirt cheap packages of 5 or 10 of the metal fuse
    link from those damn ceramic fuses, of a certain amperage, so you
    could replace just the burned out link and fix the actual fuse,
    instead of spending all that money for a new fuse. Sadly, we don't
    seem to be able to achieve that vast savings any more, unless somebody
    knows somebody who still stocks the metal strips, so that makes
    forcing us to live with those things even more cruel.
     
    z, Jul 26, 2007
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    c.fiedler Guest

    Um, most US auto parts stores carry or can get GBC fuses (sorry, I
    forget who makes them but they're glass bodied with shiny metal ends).

    I have replaced every fuse on every 240 I ever owned (a fair number
    counting the kids' cars) and have had next to no fuse problems until
    recently when a brake light fuse blew on my '93 and looked like it was
    fine. Once replaced, all was well.

    Wish I could remember who makes the fuses, they come in a yellow (used
    to be metal) box with about six fuses of the indicated amperage.

    Sorry to see IPD doesn't carry them.

    Chuck Fiedler
    Nothing but Volvo since 1974
     
    c.fiedler, Jul 26, 2007
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  12. jsegura525

    Allen Guest

    Buss is the name I recall seeing on the yellow boxes.
     
    Allen, Jul 27, 2007
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  13. jsegura525

    jsegura525 Guest

    I bought it and the fan and air were not working.
    Thanks for the help.
    Joseph
     
    jsegura525, Jul 30, 2007
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  14. jsegura525

    z Guest


    Because, when the wrong fuse blows in your 240, you have to take
    the.......
     
    z, Jul 30, 2007
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