'90 740 Turbo - Water pump installation probs, I got 'em bad

Discussion in 'Volvo 740' started by Skonnie, Mar 22, 2007.

  1. Skonnie

    Skonnie Guest

    Hey all. Am almost halfway through installing a new water pump. Have
    unbolted the old pump, but am unable to pull it loose it loose from
    the metal return tube that attaches to the back of the pump. It seems
    really stuck, and if I didn't know any better, I would think it was
    welded on. Am i just not pulling hard enough? My Haynes manual only
    covers 740s until '88 and the Chilton manual I have is effing
    useless. The tube is not bolted on as shown in the Haynes manual, and
    has a flat bottom to it. It just won't budge. Its not welded on, is
    it? Any advice? Thanks to any and all who have pearls of wisdom for
    me.

    A
     
    Skonnie, Mar 22, 2007
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  2. Skonnie

    Glenn Klein Guest

    The tube is bolted in to the water pump all B230F series engines share
    the same water pump look harder & you will see what you are missing on
    your quest
    Glenn
     
    Glenn Klein, Mar 22, 2007
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  3. Skonnie

    Skonnie Guest

    Right you are, Glenn, thanks. Its on the underside of the tube or
    pipe.

    Trouble is, I still cannot free the water pump. The gasket sealing
    the pump and the heater pipe is 'baked' on tight. I cannot free it to
    save my life. Is there some sort of solvent I could carefully use on
    the gasket to free the pump? I've also tried lightly tapping the pipe
    fitting, all to no avail. It seems stucker than stuck. Any advice,
    fellow Volvoids? Dying to get back on the road.
     
    Skonnie, Mar 23, 2007
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  4. Skonnie

    Mr. V Guest

    Yes.

    Soak it overnight in PB Blaster.
     
    Mr. V, Mar 23, 2007
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  5. Skonnie

    James Sweet Guest


    Did you remove the bolt clamping the pipe in? Beyond that it just pulls out.
     
    James Sweet, Mar 23, 2007
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  6. Skonnie

    Skonnie Guest

    Oh man, I wish it was just that. But yes, all bolts present and
    accounted for. I know it stretches the imagination, but the gasket on
    the tube has hardened, melted or aged to such a degree that it will
    not let the pump go. Not sure if I can soak anything overnight, as
    the pump is still very much attached to the heater tube, which is
    still attached to the car. Perhaps a careful and judicious
    application with a rag to catch any drips or spill might do it.
    Thanks all for the advice.
     
    Skonnie, Mar 23, 2007
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  7. I don't feel my imagination all that stretched; I've seen a few really old
    gaskets do that. I'd also like to think the gasket wasn't "sealed" with
    something unwanted.

    Perhaps a judicious application of a torch or dry ice to the pipe side of
    the joint? I'm hoping the aluminum will expand or contract while the metal
    of the pump does not (because it isn't heating or cooling) and the bond will
    shear. I've never tried that, though; the times I've come across it the
    pieces were in a place I could use a plastic mallet on the side of the loose
    piece to crack it.

    Don't bother trying to get a chisel in the edge; it chews up the metal and
    doesn't really convince the gasket to let go.

    Mike
     
    Michael Pardee, Mar 23, 2007
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  8. Skonnie

    James Sweet Guest


    Remove the whole tube and work with it on the bench. It goes around the
    back of the head and attaches to the heater hose.
     
    James Sweet, Mar 24, 2007
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  9. Skonnie

    Skonnie Guest

    Shizit, I was hoping to avoid that. I don't trust myself to remove
    the exhaust manifold and the turbo. Or rather I don't trust myself to
    put it back together correctly. PB Blaster has not worked. A block
    of wood and a rubber mallet hasn't either. I fear I'm off to seek
    (and pay for) professional help unless there's a magical 8th solution
    to all this. Thanks for all the advice.
     
    Skonnie, Mar 26, 2007
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  10. Skonnie

    James Sweet Guest


    You shouldn't have to, IIRC it will come out from behind the manifold
    without removal, you may have to remove the bracket holding the bottom
    of the turbo though. Also you might try heating up the water pump until
    the rubber seal melts, I'm not sure how it could hold it on so tight
    though, you're *sure* you didn't miss a bolt?
     
    James Sweet, Mar 26, 2007
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  11. Skonnie

    Skonnie Guest

    You shouldn't have to, IIRC it will come out from behind the manifold
    Ha ha, I'd say the same thing had I not removed all the bolts with my
    own hands and cried tears over its being stuck with my own eyes. I'm
    a bit reticent to disassemble things further, but I've already taken
    various hoses off so maybe The Next Step is in order. Thank you, Mr.
    Sweet. I will update.
     
    Skonnie, Mar 27, 2007
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