97 850 GLT ABS/TRACS Problem

Discussion in 'Volvo 850' started by John Kelway, Aug 25, 2004.

  1. John Kelway

    John Kelway Guest

    Can you help with my 1997 850 GLT Estate with only 87K Miles on the clock?
    The ABS/TRACS light comes on very occasionally (6 times in the last 2000
    miles) usually in hot temperatures. After the engine has been switched off
    for 15 minutes or more the lights are out and everything is ok again for the
    next few days. Can anyone please explain what the likely fault may be?
    Thanks
    John.
     
    John Kelway, Aug 25, 2004
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  2. John Kelway

    kmy Guest

    : Can you help with my 1997 850 GLT Estate with only 87K Miles on the clock?
    : The ABS/TRACS light comes on very occasionally (6 times in the last 2000
    : miles) usually in hot temperatures. After the engine has been switched off
    : for 15 minutes or more the lights are out and everything is ok again for the
    : next few days. Can anyone please explain what the likely fault may be?
    : Thanks
    : John.

    Its very likely your ABS controller is dying. Do a google search on 850
    abs and you will find plenty of info on this subject.
     
    kmy, Aug 26, 2004
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  3. John Kelway

    Mike F Guest

    Most likely it's the ABS computer, it's a common problem. If you can
    find someone to read the codes, you'll see you have a failure in the
    right rear sensor. However the problem is with the circuitry inside the
    ABS computer, not with your sensor.

    Another, less common problem is the ignition switch, but this is
    accompanied by inability to shift out of park without using the
    shiftlock release button, and a few other things not working as well.

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    Mike F.
    Thornhill (near Toronto), Ont.

    NOTE: new address!!
    Replace tt with t (twice!) and remove parentheses to email me directly.
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    Mike F, Aug 27, 2004
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  4. I seem to have a similar problem and am debating whether to let the
    dealer replace it ($450 + labor) or remove it myself and have Vic Rocha
    http://home.earthlink.net/~vicrocha/Volvo_Parts/Volvo_V70_ABS.htm
    do a "repair and upgrade" ($130). Does anyone know whether either
    of those options would get me newer firmware in the ABS computer?

    Vic Rocha's site mentions heat buildup. That definitely does not seem
    to be my problem. In fact, the only time the ABS and TRACS lights have
    stayed off lately for more than a minute or two was after a seven-hour
    trip. When I stopped for gas, they went out at 12 MPH and stayed out
    until I got home. They promptly came on again the next day.
     
    L David Matheny, Aug 27, 2004
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  5. John Kelway

    Mike F Guest


    Heat buildup is one possibility, but I've seen this to be random. I had
    to change the computer in my 98 S70 for this reason. Sometimes the
    light would be on at startup, sometimes it would come on after a few
    seconds, or minutes, or not at all. Fortunately for me I also have a 98
    V70, a swap of computers moved the problem to the other car. Back when
    I needed to do this I was not aware of any repair options. (The V70
    still has it's original ABS computer, 6 1/2 years and 125 000 km, touch
    wood!)

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    Mike F.
    Thornhill (near Toronto), Ont.

    NOTE: new address!!
    Replace tt with t (twice!) and remove parentheses to email me directly.
    (But I check the newsgroup more often than this email address.)
     
    Mike F, Aug 27, 2004
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  6. John Kelway

    Mick Ruthven Guest

    Funny, just today in my 94 850 Turbo Wagon the ABS and TRACS lights came on
    for the first time. It was a hot day, near 100F. The lights stayed on
    through several engine stops and starts. Later, after the temperature was
    down in the 70's the lights were gone. My inclination is to not do anything
    at all about it.
     
    Mick Ruthven, Aug 29, 2004
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  7. John Kelway

    Mike F Guest

    If I was you, I'd read the codes, write them down, clear them and then
    wait for the lights to come on again.

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    Mike F.
    Thornhill (near Toronto), Ont.

    NOTE: new address!!
    Replace tt with t (twice!) and remove parentheses to email me directly.
    (But I check the newsgroup more often than this email address.)
     
    Mike F, Aug 30, 2004
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  8. John Kelway

    Mick Ruthven Guest

    Thanks. I already contacted Victor and he said the pre-96 models didn't have
    that problem, but that the 94's (mine) have a known ignition switch problem
    that causes those lights to come on. But it seems strange to me that an
    ignition switch problem would only occur on hot days.
     
    Mick Ruthven, Aug 31, 2004
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  9. John Kelway

    John Horner Guest


    It is just a matter of time. It seems that these units eventually have a
    nearly 100% failure rate.

    John
     
    John Horner, Aug 31, 2004
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  10. John Kelway

    John Horner Guest


    The codes for the ABS failure are often wrong. They often point people to a
    "bad" wheel sensor where there is not a bad sensor. In this case you can
    end up spending extra time and money going by the book.

    John
     
    John Horner, Aug 31, 2004
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  11. John Kelway

    Mick Ruthven Guest

    After all the messages in this thread, I'm not sure what your "these units"
    refer to...
     
    Mick Ruthven, Aug 31, 2004
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