????Auxiliary Fuel Pump????

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Artful Dodger

Okay guys

By now you know that I am a complete failure when it comes to the '89' Volvo
740GLE estate with the b230e k Jet 8v motor fuel system. So it will come to
no surprise that I ask another dumb question...

What does the auxiliary fuel pump actually do?


Thanks!

Stewart, after hours of trawling through many car parks for an entire day.
I was unable to find another 740 GLE owner. The closest I got was an SE.
GL's seem popular though. I fear a 2.0 carb would be of no assistance to me
though.
 
From a point at sea, to the circles of your mind, this is Artful
Dodger:
Okay guys

By now you know that I am a complete failure

It's not failure, it's a learning curve.

What does the auxiliary fuel pump actually do?

It acts as a primer for the main pump. As you know by now, K-Jet
depends upon fairly high pressure in the fuel supply line, so the
supply needs to be consistent. Without the in-tank pump the main pump
can draw in air when the fuel level gets low, and this will lead to
erratic engine running.


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Artful said:
Okay guys

By now you know that I am a complete failure when it comes to the '89' Volvo
740GLE estate with the b230e k Jet 8v motor fuel system. So it will come to
no surprise that I ask another dumb question...

What does the auxiliary fuel pump actually do?

Thanks!

Stewart, after hours of trawling through many car parks for an entire day.
I was unable to find another 740 GLE owner. The closest I got was an SE.
GL's seem popular though. I fear a 2.0 carb would be of no assistance to me
though.

When it's hot the low pressure in the line from the tank to the main
pump can cause the fuel to vapourize in the line. The pump does not
pump vapour very well, so the fuel supply to the engine is compromised.
If you look at the older injected Volvos, (mid 1977 and earlier) that
were made in the days before auxiliary fuel pumps, you see the pump is
mounted right beside the tank, and the supply line comes out the side of
the tank (not out through the fuel sender like the later ones) to
minimize these problems. What I don't understand, I can see adding the
auxiliary fuel pump as a Band-Aid to an existing design, why didn't they
just go to one pump in the tank when they designed the 700 series?
 
What I don't understand, I can see adding the
auxiliary fuel pump as a Band-Aid to an existing design, why didn't they
just go to one pump in the tank when they designed the 700 series?

IIRC in the later 700's they did, but it wasn't until they went to the
Regina fuel system.
 
I thought that they did for carburettor engines and only added the main pump
when higher fuel injection pressures were required.

Cheers, Peter.

: Artful Dodger wrote:
: >
: > Okay guys
: >
: > By now you know that I am a complete failure when it comes to the '89' Volvo
: > 740GLE estate with the b230e k Jet 8v motor fuel system. So it will come to
: > no surprise that I ask another dumb question...
: >
: > What does the auxiliary fuel pump actually do?
: >
: > Thanks!
: >
: > Stewart, after hours of trawling through many car parks for an entire day.
: > I was unable to find another 740 GLE owner. The closest I got was an SE.
: > GL's seem popular though. I fear a 2.0 carb would be of no assistance to me
: > though.
:
: When it's hot the low pressure in the line from the tank to the main
: pump can cause the fuel to vapourize in the line. The pump does not
: pump vapour very well, so the fuel supply to the engine is compromised.
: If you look at the older injected Volvos, (mid 1977 and earlier) that
: were made in the days before auxiliary fuel pumps, you see the pump is
: mounted right beside the tank, and the supply line comes out the side of
: the tank (not out through the fuel sender like the later ones) to
: minimize these problems. What I don't understand, I can see adding the
: auxiliary fuel pump as a Band-Aid to an existing design, why didn't they
: just go to one pump in the tank when they designed the 700 series?
:
: --
: Mike F.
: Thornhill (near Toronto), Ont.
:
: Change cant to ca and remove parentheses to email me directly.
 
James said:
IIRC in the later 700's they did, but it wasn't until they went to the
Regina fuel system.

Right, I was just pointing out they were several "fuel system
generations" behind in making the switch to one pump only. The 850 had
one pump only, and the last few years of 900 series did as well. Two
pumps is a needless complication and extra expense.
 
Peter said:
I thought that they did for carburettor engines and only added the main pump
when higher fuel injection pressures were required.

Cheers, Peter.

No the under car (main) pump was first for fuel injected cars. Then
they added the tank pump to prime the main one. I'd never heard of tank
pump carb Volvos until this week, our (Canada's) last carb Volvos (1984
240, B21A) only had the mechanical engine driven pump.
 
Right, I was just pointing out they were several "fuel system
generations" behind in making the switch to one pump only. The 850 had
one pump only, and the last few years of 900 series did as well. Two
pumps is a needless complication and extra expense.

The 960s only had one pump as well.

However, at least with the 850s and newer (and I believe the Regina
equipped cars too).. that one in-tank pump requires that the tank be
dropped to access it.

With the two pump setup, you can access both pumps quite easily without
dropping the fuel tank.

- alex

'85 244 Turbo
 
Alex said:
The 960s only had one pump as well.

However, at least with the 850s and newer (and I believe the Regina
equipped cars too).. that one in-tank pump requires that the tank be
dropped to access it.

With the two pump setup, you can access both pumps quite easily without
dropping the fuel tank.

- alex

'85 244 Turbo

Only the 95 and newer 960 had one pump. And the tank doesn't need to be
dropped on any 700/900 or 850 to remove the sender, and the pump hanging
on it. I'm not sure one way or the other on the new style cars (S80 and
newer), but I can't imagine why they'd be any different.
 
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