Bad Service Alert - Nemith Motors, Colonie NY

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Michael Cerkowski

I'm in one of those 'what was I thinking when I brought the car
here?' situations. Back in March
we were bringing our '88 240 DL in for service on the throttle body &
IAC, when the overdrive
stopped working en route. I asked them to check it over, especially the
kickdown cable, relay
(which I said I thought was ok) and wiring. Two days later were told
that 'The overdrive unit has
failed' and that we needed a rebuilt transmission installed for about
$3100.00. Yeah, right. I took
the car home, did some research, and it seemed clear that it was the O/D
*solenoid*, not the actual O/D unit (thanks to those here who helped
with that). I got the part for $80, and brought the car to an
independent Volvo/Saab shop to have it installed. They did so, and that
solved the problem (along with replacing a frayed length of wiring).
Total cost: slightly under $300.00. That wasn't the end, however...

The Indie shop found that the left hood hinge was broken, and the
kickdown cable O-ring
was leaking fluid. Since I hadn't opened the hood myself, I brought the
car back to Nemith,
explained the situation, noted the 10X inflated repair estimate, and
asked them to replace the
hinge, O-ring and pan gasket. I offered to pay for the parts. The
service manager wrote down
what was wrong, told me to leave the car, and gave every impression that
they'd fix those two
problems. We have had services performed there over the last six
years, including a power flush
last August (minor screwups, but nothing major) and I really thought
that they were going to make this right.

Wrong. First I got a message from the same service manager saying
that they would NOT
be performing any "free repairs" on the car, but would give an estimate
if I liked. His boss
offered to refund the $39.50 we had been charged for the estimate, but
said that they wouldn't
even have looked at the lower cable end, or the transmission at all.
Apparently $39.50 gets you a quick look at the throttle cable
connection, and they click the O/D button a few times, nothing more, but
on this they said I needed a $3100 rebuilt transmission. Or they DID
look at the cable, and managed to bend it enough to make the O-ring
fail. HIS boss backed him up.
He further said that when they gave a diagnosis, I could choose whether
or not to have the
repair made, and they had no responsibility for the accuracy. At one
point in our increasingly
heated conversation he stated that 'It might be more fun to let you sue
us' to get the estimate
refund.

So, after nearly causing us to give the car to charity because of a
misdiagnosed transmission
'failure', Nemith would rather have complaints filed against them with
the state Attorney General
and Better Business Bureau than do work that would cost them about $100
in actual labor. I got
the impression that this won't be the first complaint filed against
them, and they essentially don't
care. Let my misfortune be a warning to other people in my area...

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I found that they also launder lemons and resell them...Nemith Motors962
Loudon RoadLatham, NY 12110($2,248.50 in consumer restitution)
Nemith Motors962 Loudon RoadLatham, NY 12110($2,248.50 in consumer
restitution)http://216.239.39.104/search?q=cache:NZapfILXw5oJ:www.oag.state.
ny.us/press/2003/mar/lemon_law_list.pdf+nemith+motors,+volvo&hl=en


Nemith Motors962 Loudon RoadLatham, NY 12110($2,248.50 in consumer
restitution)Nemith Motors962 Loudon RoadLatham, NY 12110($2,248.50 in
consumer restitution)Nemith Motors962 Loudon RoadLatham, NY 12110($2,248.50
in consumer restitution)Nemith Motors962 Loudon RoadLatham, NY
12110($2,248.50 in consumer restitution)
 
http://www.nemith.com/HTML/form.asp


Michael Cerkowski said:
I'm in one of those 'what was I thinking when I brought the car
here?' situations. Back in March
we were bringing our '88 240 DL in for service on the throttle body &
IAC, when the overdrive
stopped working en route. I asked them to check it over, especially the
kickdown cable, relay
(which I said I thought was ok) and wiring. Two days later were told
that 'The overdrive unit has
failed' and that we needed a rebuilt transmission installed for about
$3100.00. Yeah, right. I took
the car home, did some research, and it seemed clear that it was the O/D
*solenoid*, not the actual O/D unit (thanks to those here who helped
with that). I got the part for $80, and brought the car to an
independent Volvo/Saab shop to have it installed. They did so, and that
solved the problem (along with replacing a frayed length of wiring).
Total cost: slightly under $300.00. That wasn't the end, however...

The Indie shop found that the left hood hinge was broken, and the
kickdown cable O-ring
was leaking fluid. Since I hadn't opened the hood myself, I brought the
car back to Nemith,
explained the situation, noted the 10X inflated repair estimate, and
asked them to replace the
hinge, O-ring and pan gasket. I offered to pay for the parts. The
service manager wrote down
what was wrong, told me to leave the car, and gave every impression that
they'd fix those two
problems. We have had services performed there over the last six
years, including a power flush
last August (minor screwups, but nothing major) and I really thought
that they were going to make this right.

Wrong. First I got a message from the same service manager saying
that they would NOT
be performing any "free repairs" on the car, but would give an estimate
if I liked. His boss
offered to refund the $39.50 we had been charged for the estimate, but
said that they wouldn't
even have looked at the lower cable end, or the transmission at all.
Apparently $39.50 gets you a quick look at the throttle cable
connection, and they click the O/D button a few times, nothing more, but
on this they said I needed a $3100 rebuilt transmission. Or they DID
look at the cable, and managed to bend it enough to make the O-ring
fail. HIS boss backed him up.
He further said that when they gave a diagnosis, I could choose whether
or not to have the
repair made, and they had no responsibility for the accuracy. At one
point in our increasingly
heated conversation he stated that 'It might be more fun to let you sue
us' to get the estimate
refund.

So, after nearly causing us to give the car to charity because of a
misdiagnosed transmission
'failure', Nemith would rather have complaints filed against them with
the state Attorney General
and Better Business Bureau than do work that would cost them about $100
in actual labor. I got
the impression that this won't be the first complaint filed against
them, and they essentially don't
care. Let my misfortune be a warning to other people in my area...

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Volvette said:
I found that they also launder lemons and resell them...Nemith Motors962
Loudon RoadLatham, NY 12110($2,248.50 in consumer restitution)
Nemith Motors962 Loudon RoadLatham, NY 12110($2,248.50 in consumer
restitution)http://216.239.39.104/search?q=cache:NZapfILXw5oJ:www.oag.state.
ny.us/press/2003/mar/lemon_law_list.pdf+nemith+motors,+volvo&hl=en


Nemith Motors962 Loudon RoadLatham, NY 12110($2,248.50 in consumer
restitution)Nemith Motors962 Loudon RoadLatham, NY 12110($2,248.50 in
consumer restitution)Nemith Motors962 Loudon RoadLatham, NY 12110($2,248.50
in consumer restitution)Nemith Motors962 Loudon RoadLatham, NY
12110($2,248.50 in consumer restitution)

I saw that, but didn't know what is was about, specifically.



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Volvette said:
They heard plenty from me over the phone, and in person. Next they'll
hear from the Better Business Bureau (a joke, I know) and the state
Attorney General's office. It won't matter much, but I will also be
informing everyone I know...

BTW, I sent them my original complain via their form for making
service appointments. The Volvo service manager, "Larry", claimed
that the email forms "aren't hooked up - I don't get any of that
stuff". Makes you wonder how people make service appts, eh?



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thanx for the warning...what a bunch of sh&% heads....
i will amke sure to stay away from them when ordering
my new s60r
 
Michael Cerkowski said:
They heard plenty from me over the phone, and in person. Next they'll
hear from the Better Business Bureau (a joke, I know) and the state
Attorney General's office. It won't matter much, but I will also be
informing everyone I know...

BTW, I sent them my original complain via their form for making
service appointments. The Volvo service manager, "Larry", claimed
that the email forms "aren't hooked up - I don't get any of that
stuff". Makes you wonder how people make service appts, eh?

Park your car out front with a big sign "Ask me how htis place tried
to roip me off. I have the details!" After the media gets in touch
with you (after you call them anon) it should get interesting.

A lot of folks make fun of California, but the Bureau of Automotive
Repairs and the State Atty. gen'l office take this sort of thing
pretty seriously out here on the left side.


from Randy & Valerie
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\ \ / /
\ \/ /
\__/olvo
1993 960
 
I am not sure they would print it, but you could add a comment to the
mechanic x area on click and clacks web site:
http://www.cartalk.com/content/mechx/
BTW, Larry is not the service manager, just a writer, here is the who's who
at nemith, I bet if you let them know whets going on they will take action,
if not Volvo might if you let them know...
http://volvo.retailerconnection.com/pages/present/core/notlocalized/staff/default.asp?NavID=5

let Volvo corporate know how happy you are too:
http://www.volvocars.us/_Tier3/ContactUs/
 
I don't know where to begin with Nemith. Received a diagnosis that our V70
needed $3,900 in repairs, which included numerous oil leaks, need to
replace the drive shaft, etc. Of course, when I had the car in twice
within the last few months complaining about oil leaks they couldn't
detect them. Finally decided it wasn't worth doing the repairs, after
getting a second opinion which confirmed some of the work was necessary.
Gave a $1,000 deposit plus the V70 and ordered a new V50. 37 days later,
I was informed there would be no car because Volvo was switching to the
'06 model year. My complaints went nowhere, and Nemith declined to try to
keep me as a customer. Went to pick up my old car yesterday, only to find
the winter rims and tires were gone. Nemith doesn't know what happened to
them, and refused to take any responsibility for them, although the car
was solely in their possession all that time.

Buyer beware!
 
I worked for Nemith Motors for roughly 5 years and was friendly with all
the Volvo Technicians and the Service Writer (Larry). They're very goal
oriented and care about customer satisfaction. The master Volvo Tech John
Jacon is an outstanding mechanic and cares about the reputation of his
crew and the quality of work performed, this team honestly cares about the
Volvo customers. I think your problems lie with the dishonest Service
Manager (Jim Fullerton) who only cares about the money he can make for the
shop. I have personally seen him on several occasions encourage
overselling work and insist on performing BG services that Volvo does not
recommend. This guy is bad news and he does not care about the customer
or for that matter the reputation of the dealership. Alot of decent
employees have quit Nemith Motors because of his compulsive lies and
crooked politics. The last I knew there were four Volvo Techs, John, Dan,
Aaron, and JB so I can't vouche for any other new Volvo hires but these
guys are outstanding and knowledgeable Volvo mechanics with excellent
credentials. This just sounds like Jim Fullersh*ts schemes as usual.
 
Nismofan said:
I worked for Nemith Motors for roughly 5 years and was friendly with all
the Volvo Technicians and the Service Writer (Larry). They're very goal
oriented and care about customer satisfaction. The master Volvo Tech John
Jacon is an outstanding mechanic and cares about the reputation of his
crew and the quality of work performed, this team honestly cares about the
Volvo customers. I think your problems lie with the dishonest Service
Manager (Jim Fullerton) who only cares about the money he can make for the
shop. I have personally seen him on several occasions encourage
overselling work and insist on performing BG services that Volvo does not
recommend. This guy is bad news and he does not care about the customer
or for that matter the reputation of the dealership. Alot of decent
employees have quit Nemith Motors because of his compulsive lies and
crooked politics. The last I knew there were four Volvo Techs, John, Dan,
Aaron, and JB so I can't vouche for any other new Volvo hires but these
guys are outstanding and knowledgeable Volvo mechanics with excellent
credentials. This just sounds like Jim Fullersh*ts schemes as usual.

The good guys should go set up their own Volvo/European car independent
repair shop. Many of the best shops I have seen over the years have
been owned and operated by good senior techs who got fed up with
stealership management.

John
 
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