Best oil for 1995 Volvo 940 2.3 LPT (in the UK)

Discussion in 'Volvo 940' started by Matthew Jenkins, Dec 12, 2005.

  1. What is the best oil that is available in the UK, for a 1995 Volvo 940 2.3
    LPT with 93000 miles on the clock.

    I want an oil that will help the engine and turbo last as long as possible.
    I am not bothered about the cost of it.

    Our local Volvo garage recommended Castrol GTX Magnatec 10-40. Is this
    really the best?

    Thanks, Matthew
     
    Matthew Jenkins, Dec 12, 2005
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  2. Matthew Jenkins

    M-gineering Guest

    fresh and clean beats expensive and overdue any time
    --
     
    M-gineering, Dec 12, 2005
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  3. Synthetic oil real synthetic oil like Mobil one of BP 5000 .Even if castrol
    modifies conventional oil its still not synthetic and magnatec is castrol
    the cheapest oil the garage can buy .Synthetic oil does NOT glug up the
    turbo and runs cooler .It also flows faster when cold and wear rates are way
    down .Sure its more expensive BUT so is a new turbo .Just look in side the
    oil cap of a car thats running on synthetic its like a sewing machine where
    as conventional oil goes thick and greasy .I use synthetic oil on my wifes
    sewing machine for that reason .
     
    John Robertson, Dec 13, 2005
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  4. Matthew Jenkins

    David Taylor Guest

    as conventional oil goes thick and greasy .I use synthetic oil on my wifes
    Your wife has a turbo charged sewing machine?

    Awesome!

    :)
     
    David Taylor, Dec 13, 2005
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  5. I think every sewing machine I've tried to use was turbocharged. I press the
    pedal with my right foot and WHOAA! ;-)

    Mike
     
    Michael Pardee, Dec 13, 2005
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  6. Matthew Jenkins

    John Horner Guest

    Any name brand synthetic is going to do you just fine. Some people get
    all caught up in Group III vs. Group IV vs. Group V base oil arguments,
    but in practice they all work extremely well as long as you stay within
    the specified oil change interval.

    Check your owner's manual for weight recommendation. On my '96 Volvo
    10W-40 was not one of the recommended choices.

    John
     
    John Horner, Dec 13, 2005
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  7. Matthew Jenkins

    Java Man Guest

    I've read that converting to synthetic on an older engine invites oil
    leaks. I don't know whether this is true or not, but there was a thread
    on volvospeed.com on which many complained of oil leaks on previously
    leak-free engines after switching to synthetics.

    Rick
     
    Java Man, Dec 13, 2005
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  8. Thanks for your reply John.

    I would be interested to know what the recommended choices are for your
    Volvo. And is yours a 940 2.3 Low Pressure Turbo?

    The owners manual for mine does recommend 10-40 for petrol engines - see the
    table in http://homepage.ntlworld.com/charles.jenkins/940Oil.jpg

    I guess its different depending on where you live. We almost never get
    temperatures below -10C or above +35C in southern England.

    - Matthew
     
    Matthew Jenkins, Dec 13, 2005
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  9. Matthew Jenkins

    John Horner Guest

    Mine is a non-turbo 850, an entirely different motor from the 940. The
    owners manual calls for 5W-30, 5W-40, 10W-30 or 15W-40 depending on
    ambient temperature range.

    John
     
    John Horner, Dec 13, 2005
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  10. I took a deep breath and changed to synthetic on our '85 765T with 220K+
    miles a couple years ago. When that worked, I did the same to my daughter's
    '93 Honda with about 200K miles. No leaks... but YMMV.

    Mike
     
    Michael Pardee, Dec 13, 2005
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  11. Matthew Jenkins

    Knut Solem Guest

    I have the same car, and I've tried the Magnatec.
    No more.... in my engine.
    Some kind of charcoal-like substance nearly choked the oil return pipe from
    the turbo.
    And it was a smell of burned oil from the exhaust when the car was left for
    a few minutes with the engine running ....

    Magnatec is not synthetic. It's only a modified mineral oil.
    The main problem in turbos is the temperature.
    Synthetic oil can stand a much higher temeperature.
    And the turbo becomes really hot under load.
    So....
    Rule no. 1 for Turbocharged cars: Use synthetic oil.

    I'm currently running my engine on Statoil LazerWay 5w40, and have used it
    for the last 3 years.
    No problems so far....
    The oil return pipe is clean and the engine does not burn oil any more.
     
    Knut Solem, Dec 18, 2005
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  12. Matthew Jenkins

    David Taylor Guest

    I've read that converting to synthetic on an older engine invites oil
    Well I think you'll find that it doesn't cause the leaks as such but
    rather in an older engine, the seals have hardened somewhat and oil
    residue has built up which helps plug the now harder oil seal.

    Synthetic is a much better cleaner and as I have heard, will eventually
    dissolve the older oil residues which now leaves the hardened oil seal
    with a much harder time.

    So it's not the synthetic oil which causes a leak, just old oil seals
    that are already past their use by date being helped out by gunky
    deposits.
     
    David Taylor, Dec 19, 2005
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  13. I see Mobil
    (http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/MotorOil/Car_Care/Vehicle_Chooser/Vehic
    leChooser.aspx?option=2) reccomend Mobil 1 10W-30. Unfortunately so far as I
    can tell, this is not available in the UK and it seems the fully synthetic
    oils sold by the main brand suppliers in the UK (Mobil, BP, Castrol) are all
    0W-n, where n can be 30, 40, other. The Castrol web site recommends 0W-30
    for this car.

    I am not that keen on putting a 0 rated oil in a car that is getting on of
    for 100,000 miles - especially as Volvo reccomend 10W-30 or 10W-40. My
    feeling is that using an oil that is too thin when cold might lead to
    insufficient oil pressure in places where it is needed. Is this right?

    There are a number of other suppliers in the UK (e.g. Millers, Comma) that
    do fully synthetic 5W-30 or 5W-40, I might opt for one of these.

    Does anyone know of a fully synthetic 10W-30 or 10W-40 oil available in the
    UK?
    Or, is there anyone in the UK who has got one of these cars to do a huge
    mileage without turbo problems, and if so what oil did they use?

    Thanks, Matthew
     
    Matthew Jenkins, Dec 24, 2005
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  14. You do not need 10W30 or 10W40 oils as the rating for fully synthetic is not
    the same as for mineral oils. I have Mobil 1 5W-30 Diesel in my Diesel Volvo
    945 and the mileage is over 167,000.

    All the best, Peter.

    700/900/90 Register Keeper,
    Volvo Owners Club (UK).
     
    Peter K L Milnes, Dec 25, 2005
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  15. My understanding is that oil pressure isn't the central issue, since the
    film strength is what prevents the parts from touching. Oil pressure is just
    the only indication we have that the oil is being pumped to where it is
    needed.

    The big problem with low viscosity engine oils is the increased consumption.

    Mike
     
    Michael Pardee, Dec 25, 2005
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  16. B y the way in checking recommendations for 740 turbos I notice that
    synthetic is now recommended .Until recently dino oil was suggested .So the
    experts have finally caught on synthetic oil is better ,but also remember a
    good filter is needed with any oil as well....I got mobil 1 for $AU49.95 at
    super cheap here in Melbourne Australia its normally $AU 65.95 .
     
    John Robertson, Jan 13, 2006
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