Brake light failure relay on 1992 245

Discussion in 'Volvo 240' started by moon161, Mar 16, 2006.

  1. moon161

    moon161 Guest

    It looks like my brake light failure relay is broke- I step on the
    brakes, the fail light goes on and 12V doesn't go to the brake lights .

    First I thought no problem, I'll just do the dashboard dive and get to
    the bottom off this. The brake pedal switch is good, and I decided to
    bypass the relay after I saw that blue/red wire disapear into wire
    harness and dashboard.

    I tried bypassing the relay and using the brake pedal switch to feed
    12V lights up the lights, but then I can't shift out of park since this
    relay is actually the hidden nexus of all things volvo. Wiring the
    relay right to 12V works if you want a couple brake lights on 24-7.
    Not.

    So I'm left finding the relay (relay 12 at D5 in the generic 240 wiring
    diagram). Can anyone tell me where it is in dashboard land and how to
    get there? I've got the sinking feeling that it's gonna be like a
    heater motor- step 1: Pull the speedometer =8-0
     
    moon161, Mar 16, 2006
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  2. moon161

    James Sweet Guest


    Relay? Or are you referring to the bulb failure sensor which is normally
    a red cannister with a lot of wires going to it?
     
    James Sweet, Mar 16, 2006
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  3. moon161

    moon161 Guest

    Sounds right to me. Pictures I've seen of it look like a can. It's fed
    by blue/red from the brake pedal sensor, and should output to the
    instrument cluster, brake lites and the shifter interlock. Once found,
    can pop it open and see if it's a relay inside or otherwise.

    I looked in the console, and behind the radio, but haven't pulled the
    speedometer yet. Sounds like I better change the wires over one by one
    ;0)
     
    moon161, Mar 16, 2006
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  4. moon161

    James Sweet Guest


    The older ones have a number of glass reed relays, each has two coils
    wound around it in opposite directions. These coils are in series with
    the lamps, one on each side. When the load is equal (both lamps working)
    the magnetic fields cancel out. When one lamp is working and the other
    isn't, you have a field which activates the reed relay turning on the
    dash indicator.

    Newer ones I hear are electronic, I haven't opened one of them up yet.
     
    James Sweet, Mar 17, 2006
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  5. moon161

    moon161 Guest

    Cool. Do you know exactly what part of the dashboard forest to look in?
    I've looked around the pedals & steering column, behind the radio, and
    pulled the center console.

    Thanks,

    Andy
     
    moon161, Mar 17, 2006
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