Catalytic Converter

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Ray, Jul 2, 2004.

  1. Ray

    Ray Guest

    My 1992 940GL failed the Maryland emissions test.
    To correct the problem, I took it to three separate
    "Volvo specialists," including my local dealership.
    All three told me the catalytic converter needs to be
    replaced and quoted me between $800 and $1100 for the
    part alone.

    However, when I do a search on-line for an OEM part,
    the prices go for around $200 dollars. This makes
    me think that OEM parts are significantly different
    from genuine volvo parts.

    However, according to what I've heard, and this site
    in particular:

    http://www.alloemvolvoparts.com/oem_vs_aftermarket.html

    It says OEM parts are effectively the same as genuine
    parts. Could the markup really be that high?

    Thanks,
    - Ray

    P.S. How could I tell if my catalytic converter needs
    an EGR valve?
     
    Ray, Jul 2, 2004
    #1
  2. post the readings they gave you.
     
    Bob the Sailor, Jul 3, 2004
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  3. Ray

    Al Dente Guest

    I put a new cat converter on my '89 240 wagon about 2 years ago. As I
    recall, it cost around $70 at AutoZone or PepBoys, and the job probably took
    me an hour or two to do. Have passed our Georgia emissions test twice with
    no problem, and car running well. Don't see why yours should be so
    expensive!
     
    Al Dente, Jul 3, 2004
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  4. Ray

    Ray Guest

    :
    :> My 1992 940GL failed the Maryland emissions test.
    :
    : post the readings they gave you.

    State Limit My Car
    Hydrocarbons: 1.0000 GPM 1.1500 GPM
    Carbon Monoxide: 20.0000 GPM 9.2548 GPM
    Oxides of Nitrogen: 2.2000 GPM 4.0865 GPM

    This was a re-test on a particularly hot day. My
    first test only failed the NOx test at ~3.5000 GPM.

    - Ray
     
    Ray, Jul 3, 2004
    #4
  5. I have used a gasoline additive called RXP and have had wonderful results.
     
    Bob the Sailor, Jul 3, 2004
    #5
  6. Ray

    Peter Milnes Guest

    Firstly OEM means Original Equipment Manufacture which is to say that the item
    is made by the same firm as makes the one fitted to your car by the makers.

    I am puzzled by your reference to EGR valve. This item has nothing to do with
    the catalytic converter. If it is fitted to your car there will be a stainless
    steel pipe fitted to the exhaust manifold which ends in a stainless steel valve
    unit at the inlet manifold. This is required on California cars. If the EGR
    system gives trouble (as it will) your emissions can fail.

    Get the catalytic converter yourself making sure that it is the right one for
    your car and either fit it yourself or take it to your tyre, exhaust and battery
    man who will be pleased to fit it for you at less cost than a dealer.

    : My 1992 940GL failed the Maryland emissions test.
    : To correct the problem, I took it to three separate
    : "Volvo specialists," including my local dealership.
    : All three told me the catalytic converter needs to be
    : replaced and quoted me between $800 and $1100 for the
    : part alone.
    :
    : However, when I do a search on-line for an OEM part,
    : the prices go for around $200 dollars. This makes
    : me think that OEM parts are significantly different
    : from genuine volvo parts.
    :
    : However, according to what I've heard, and this site
    : in particular:
    :
    : http://www.alloemvolvoparts.com/oem_vs_aftermarket.html
    :
    : It says OEM parts are effectively the same as genuine
    : parts. Could the markup really be that high?
    :
    : Thanks,
    : - Ray
    :
    : P.S. How could I tell if my catalytic converter needs
    : an EGR valve?
     
    Peter Milnes, Jul 4, 2004
    #6
  7. Ray

    Bill Chaplin Guest

    Bet your ass!! They are just waiting for people who think a cat con has
    an EGR. Bill
     
    Bill Chaplin, Jul 4, 2004
    #7
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    Randy G. Guest

    W.C. Fields (in a movie) sees a man working on a car at the side of a
    rodway. He leans over, knowingly looks into the engine compartment and
    says, "Must be the wheelbase."

    __ __
    Randy & \ \/ /alerie's
    \__/olvo
    '93 960 Estate
     
    Randy G., Jul 4, 2004
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  9. Ray

    Ray Guest

    : I am puzzled by your reference to EGR valve. This item has nothing to do with
    : the catalytic converter. If it is fitted to your car there will be a stainless
    : steel pipe fitted to the exhaust manifold which ends in a stainless steel valve
    : unit at the inlet manifold. This is required on California cars. If the EGR
    : system gives trouble (as it will) your emissions can fail.

    In looking for an OEM catalytic converter for my car, there seemed to
    be two versions: one with an EGR valve and one without. I wasn't sure
    which one I should purchase. I guess I need to check under my car to
    find out for sure.

    At any rate, it seems the general consensus of the group is that OEM
    parts are every bit as good as genuine Volvo parts. Even though they
    cost 80% less.

    Thanks!
    - Ray
     
    Ray, Jul 4, 2004
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  10. Ray

    Robert Dietz Guest

    Cars without the egr valve were 49 state cars, those with were
    California cars. The cheap converters will not pass California emissions
    specs. Since you're in MD there's no problem.

    Bob
     
    Robert Dietz, Jul 4, 2004
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  11. Ray

    Robert Dietz Guest

    BTW, I can get you a Bosal unit for $150.00. My shop is in Sterling, VA.
    Email off group for particulars if you're interested.

    Bob
     
    Robert Dietz, Jul 4, 2004
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    Rod Gray Guest

    Try changing the oil and filter. On high milage cars the gas fumes go past
    the piston rings into the crankcase. It contaminates the oil causing higher
    emmisions. Give it a try and retest it.
     
    Rod Gray, Jul 6, 2004
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    taff Guest

    That worked for me a few years ago on an old 240.

    Taff........




    www.sounds-pa.com | www.thecomputerworkshop.com
     
    taff, Jul 6, 2004
    #13
  14. Ray

    Peter Milnes Guest

    AFAIK Catalytic Converters do not have EGR valves. Unless the mechanic is using
    the term Catalytic Converter to indicate the model car you have. If you don't
    reside in California you don't need EGR (Exhaust Gas Recirculation) anyway.

    Cheers, Peter.

    : That worked for me a few years ago on an old 240.
    :
    : Taff........
    :
    : On Mon, 5 Jul 2004 19:18:35 -0400, "Rod Gray" <>
    : wrote:
    :
    : >Try changing the oil and filter. On high milage cars the gas fumes go past
    : >the piston rings into the crankcase. It contaminates the oil causing higher
    : >emmisions. Give it a try and retest it.
    : >
    : >: >> My 1992 940GL failed the Maryland emissions test.
    : >> To correct the problem, I took it to three separate
    : >> "Volvo specialists," including my local dealership.
    : >> All three told me the catalytic converter needs to be
    : >> replaced and quoted me between $800 and $1100 for the
    : >> part alone.
    : >>
    : >> However, when I do a search on-line for an OEM part,
    : >> the prices go for around $200 dollars. This makes
    : >> me think that OEM parts are significantly different
    : >> from genuine volvo parts.
    : >>
    : >> However, according to what I've heard, and this site
    : >> in particular:
    : >>
    : >> http://www.alloemvolvoparts.com/oem_vs_aftermarket.html
    : >>
    : >> It says OEM parts are effectively the same as genuine
    : >> parts. Could the markup really be that high?
    : >>
    : >> Thanks,
    : >> - Ray
    : >>
    : >> P.S. How could I tell if my catalytic converter needs
    : >> an EGR valve?
    : >
    :
    :
    :
    :
    : www.sounds-pa.com | www.thecomputerworkshop.com
     
    Peter Milnes, Jul 6, 2004
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  15. I have used a gasoline additive called RXP and have had wonderful results.
    This stuff cleans the bejeezers out of the valves and fuel system.It has
    made me a believer three times!Bob
     
    Bob the Sailor, Jul 6, 2004
    #15
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    James Sweet Guest

    OEM parts are just fine, Volvo (and any other premium marque) puts a
    tremendous markup on parts.
     
    James Sweet, Jul 7, 2004
    #16
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