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Mystical
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Harvey Dichter
Looking for a CD changer for a 1996 960..
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Brian Shuttz
Any CD Changer with an fm modulator will work with any radio that has fm
reception. Dont waste your money on "Volvo" CD Changers.
reception. Dont waste your money on "Volvo" CD Changers.
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Rob Guenther
Why on earth would you want an FM based CD changer? Apart from convenience,
in that you don't have to run wires if needed (I believe all 960's were
pre-wired for CD changers), buy a new headunit if needed, or the extra cost
of a real Volvo part (there are usually compatible ones that are hard wired
for lower prices)... FM radio does not have nearly the same capabilities for
sound transmission that a properly wired CD player would deliver. When you
listen to a good, strong FM statio you hear something that sounds not bad...
almost like a 128kbit MP3, stereo sound, close to a full range... but there
is just no depth to the sound.... Then you pop in a CD and the sound system
really comes alive. If you heard a song on the radio then played the same
song from CD you would understand what i'm talking about - so wouldn't you
want your CD changer to play back like a CD changer, and not an FM radio
with six or so, of your own "stations"... Plus then you'd have a remote
control to operate this thing, instead of the buttons on your headunit
FM based audio products should only be used with "portable" type of audio
when played in a car, things with reduced quality anyways - Mini Disk, MP3,
and those types... These mediums have compressed music, and much of the data
that would be on a CD isn't actually there on these devices - They trim out
the areas you don't really hear as well to save space... Which lowers sound
quality quite a bit... so when you pipe it over FM you don't really lose too
much. Considering BMW is the only one with an iPod connector (so far) in the
car for MP3 style music, and minidisk players are not all that common for
car audio system, an FM transmitter makes sense in these cases, as you get
rid of the nasty cords that come with tape adapters (tho you will get higher
sound quality thru this type of adapter). But when a car is pre-wired for a
CD changer, you are not doing yourself a favour by cheaping out for a few
bucks to get lesser technology... You'd get better sound quality with a tape
adapter kit and a portable CD player.
Failing that, goto a wrecker and get a Volvo slot load 1-CD headunit for
under $100 and change disks yourself.... Or go aftermarket with a new
headunit... Then get a changer for it if you want...
BTW I'm a guy who really loves to hear audio at full quality, I recognize
that there are people out there who don't really notice/care that it isn't
full quality - that saving a few bucks is actually more important than to
hear their music (which you pay good money for to get in CD format) played
back as the recording studio intended.
in that you don't have to run wires if needed (I believe all 960's were
pre-wired for CD changers), buy a new headunit if needed, or the extra cost
of a real Volvo part (there are usually compatible ones that are hard wired
for lower prices)... FM radio does not have nearly the same capabilities for
sound transmission that a properly wired CD player would deliver. When you
listen to a good, strong FM statio you hear something that sounds not bad...
almost like a 128kbit MP3, stereo sound, close to a full range... but there
is just no depth to the sound.... Then you pop in a CD and the sound system
really comes alive. If you heard a song on the radio then played the same
song from CD you would understand what i'm talking about - so wouldn't you
want your CD changer to play back like a CD changer, and not an FM radio
with six or so, of your own "stations"... Plus then you'd have a remote
control to operate this thing, instead of the buttons on your headunit
FM based audio products should only be used with "portable" type of audio
when played in a car, things with reduced quality anyways - Mini Disk, MP3,
and those types... These mediums have compressed music, and much of the data
that would be on a CD isn't actually there on these devices - They trim out
the areas you don't really hear as well to save space... Which lowers sound
quality quite a bit... so when you pipe it over FM you don't really lose too
much. Considering BMW is the only one with an iPod connector (so far) in the
car for MP3 style music, and minidisk players are not all that common for
car audio system, an FM transmitter makes sense in these cases, as you get
rid of the nasty cords that come with tape adapters (tho you will get higher
sound quality thru this type of adapter). But when a car is pre-wired for a
CD changer, you are not doing yourself a favour by cheaping out for a few
bucks to get lesser technology... You'd get better sound quality with a tape
adapter kit and a portable CD player.
Failing that, goto a wrecker and get a Volvo slot load 1-CD headunit for
under $100 and change disks yourself.... Or go aftermarket with a new
headunit... Then get a changer for it if you want...
BTW I'm a guy who really loves to hear audio at full quality, I recognize
that there are people out there who don't really notice/care that it isn't
full quality - that saving a few bucks is actually more important than to
hear their music (which you pay good money for to get in CD format) played
back as the recording studio intended.
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Brian Shuttz
I agree with ya. But I'm used to the majority of the CD Changer related
posts that are looking for a cheap alternative to the factory Changers.
Without an upgrade to the factory garbage that Volvo calls speakers, you
wont notice a difference in fm modulated changers, which by the way almost
always come with remotes.
P.S. If you are a true audiophile who likes to listen to music as it was
intended to be heard, you wouldnt have rear speakers in your car....
posts that are looking for a cheap alternative to the factory Changers.
Without an upgrade to the factory garbage that Volvo calls speakers, you
wont notice a difference in fm modulated changers, which by the way almost
always come with remotes.
P.S. If you are a true audiophile who likes to listen to music as it was
intended to be heard, you wouldnt have rear speakers in your car....
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Rob Guenther
I'm not a true audiophile... Don't care about how many speakers there are,
as long as the music sounds damn good. I love audio technology though...
Just not a true purist.
The Volvo's i've been in have had some decent factory sound systems, which
model came with bad speakers from the factory?
Our 1993 960 still have good sound (for a Tape deck and AM/FM) to this
day... Much more warmth and depth from its 6 ancient speakers than the 8
speaker "Premium IV" AM/FM/Tape/In-dash CD in the Volkswagen Golf I drive as
well.
as long as the music sounds damn good. I love audio technology though...
Just not a true purist.
The Volvo's i've been in have had some decent factory sound systems, which
model came with bad speakers from the factory?
Our 1993 960 still have good sound (for a Tape deck and AM/FM) to this
day... Much more warmth and depth from its 6 ancient speakers than the 8
speaker "Premium IV" AM/FM/Tape/In-dash CD in the Volkswagen Golf I drive as
well.
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Brian Shuttz
ALL of Volvos factory speakers were low end junk. Even replacing them with
$39 Walmart speakers is an upgrade. I love music in my cars as well but I
never settle for "damn good", for me it has to be "fucking excellent".
$39 Walmart speakers is an upgrade. I love music in my cars as well but I
never settle for "damn good", for me it has to be "fucking excellent".
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Hamish Alker-Jones
ALL of Volvos factory speakers were low end junk. Even replacing them with
$39 Walmart speakers is an upgrade. I love music in my cars as well but I
never settle for "damn good", for me it has to be "fucking excellent".
Is that right? Maybe you got a dud?
I am extremely happy with the sound system in my wife's Ovlov. In fact, it
is easily the best one I have ever heard as an OEM fit.
I love my music as well, but the noise maker is only one aspect of buying
the machine.
What have you got in yours? HU, speakers, amp et al?
Cheers
H
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Robert Lutwak
Well, between my wife and I, we have two '96 850s. Hers has the SC-816 and
was factory pre-wired for the changer, so we added the OEM changer. Mine
has the SC-811, with no factory pre-wiring, so we added a Pioneer
FM-modulated changer, which we already owned from my previous car ('87 240).
The difference is unmistabkable. Not only is the dynamic range of the
directly-wired changer better, the FM modulated version suffers from
distortion and crackling. If you have the factory wiring, there's no
question, the cost is roughly the same for either, the sound is far superior
for the OEM version, and the installation a whole lot simpler.
As for the speakers, sound quality is irrelevant as long as the magnets keep
falling off. Both of the speakers on the rear deck of my 850 sedan suffered
from failed magnets and Volvo wanted $180 EACH to replace them. I picked up
a pair from a salvage yard and BOTH of those had failed magnets too. I
didn't want to have to drill my rear deck, so I took the Volvo speaker
housing around to the local electronics places and was disappointed (but not
surprised) to find that they're an oddball size, just a little too narrow to
fit 6x9's. Here's what I did: I made adapters out of the old speakers
(the ones with the failed magnets). I used my tin snips to cut out the
middle part of the speaker, metal, cone and all, leaving a rectangular
flange with an elliptical hole in the middle. I drilled some holes in my
new "adapter plates" and bolted them to a new pair of Infinity 5x7s (about
$80). Now I have a nice pair of Inifinty speakers on Volvo mounting flanges
that fit perfectly into the rear deck housings. Once conceiving the plan,
it only took about an hour for the whole job and didn't require any
modifications to the car or the housings.
was factory pre-wired for the changer, so we added the OEM changer. Mine
has the SC-811, with no factory pre-wiring, so we added a Pioneer
FM-modulated changer, which we already owned from my previous car ('87 240).
The difference is unmistabkable. Not only is the dynamic range of the
directly-wired changer better, the FM modulated version suffers from
distortion and crackling. If you have the factory wiring, there's no
question, the cost is roughly the same for either, the sound is far superior
for the OEM version, and the installation a whole lot simpler.
As for the speakers, sound quality is irrelevant as long as the magnets keep
falling off. Both of the speakers on the rear deck of my 850 sedan suffered
from failed magnets and Volvo wanted $180 EACH to replace them. I picked up
a pair from a salvage yard and BOTH of those had failed magnets too. I
didn't want to have to drill my rear deck, so I took the Volvo speaker
housing around to the local electronics places and was disappointed (but not
surprised) to find that they're an oddball size, just a little too narrow to
fit 6x9's. Here's what I did: I made adapters out of the old speakers
(the ones with the failed magnets). I used my tin snips to cut out the
middle part of the speaker, metal, cone and all, leaving a rectangular
flange with an elliptical hole in the middle. I drilled some holes in my
new "adapter plates" and bolted them to a new pair of Infinity 5x7s (about
$80). Now I have a nice pair of Inifinty speakers on Volvo mounting flanges
that fit perfectly into the rear deck housings. Once conceiving the plan,
it only took about an hour for the whole job and didn't require any
modifications to the car or the housings.
R
Rob Guenther
Then most other cars must be REALLY low end junk.
To say that cheap wall mart replacement speakers are better is just lying.
To say that cheap wall mart replacement speakers are better is just lying.
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Brian Shuttz
Here is what I am running :
Kenwood KDC-PS905 Passive head unit w/CD
AudioControl 4.1 5 band parametric eq/line driver
AudioControl ESP3 Spatial restoration unit
2-AudioControl EQT 30 Band Mono EQ's
Orion XTR475 Amp Powering
KEF Audio 6" UniQ Coincentric Front Component Set in front kick panels
Boston Accoustic 8" Midbass Drivers in Front Doors
Orion XTR2150 Powering
2-Orion NT 12"DVC subs mounted in separate sealed .9 cubic ft enclosures
in trunk firing thru the rear armrest
Iin the process of removing all of this stuff and putting it into my MR2
Project car that will soon be my daily driver
Kenwood KDC-PS905 Passive head unit w/CD
AudioControl 4.1 5 band parametric eq/line driver
AudioControl ESP3 Spatial restoration unit
2-AudioControl EQT 30 Band Mono EQ's
Orion XTR475 Amp Powering
KEF Audio 6" UniQ Coincentric Front Component Set in front kick panels
Boston Accoustic 8" Midbass Drivers in Front Doors
Orion XTR2150 Powering
2-Orion NT 12"DVC subs mounted in separate sealed .9 cubic ft enclosures
in trunk firing thru the rear armrest
Iin the process of removing all of this stuff and putting it into my MR2
Project car that will soon be my daily driver
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AB
Impressive but strange really....
True audiophiles hate graphic/parametric equalizers as they generate noise
and detract from the true sound....
Hope the MR2 has a big alternator/battery!!!
True audiophiles hate graphic/parametric equalizers as they generate noise
and detract from the true sound....
Hope the MR2 has a big alternator/battery!!!
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Mike F
Robert said:Well, between my wife and I, we have two '96 850s. Hers has the SC-816 and
was factory pre-wired for the changer, so we added the OEM changer. Mine
has the SC-811, with no factory pre-wiring, so we added a Pioneer
FM-modulated changer, which we already owned from my previous car ('87 240).
The difference is unmistabkable. Not only is the dynamic range of the
directly-wired changer better, the FM modulated version suffers from
distortion and crackling. If you have the factory wiring, there's no
question, the cost is roughly the same for either, the sound is far superior
for the OEM version, and the installation a whole lot simpler.
As for the speakers, sound quality is irrelevant as long as the magnets keep
falling off. Both of the speakers on the rear deck of my 850 sedan suffered
from failed magnets and Volvo wanted $180 EACH to replace them. I picked up
a pair from a salvage yard and BOTH of those had failed magnets too. I
didn't want to have to drill my rear deck, so I took the Volvo speaker
housing around to the local electronics places and was disappointed (but not
surprised) to find that they're an oddball size, just a little too narrow to
fit 6x9's. Here's what I did: I made adapters out of the old speakers
(the ones with the failed magnets). I used my tin snips to cut out the
middle part of the speaker, metal, cone and all, leaving a rectangular
flange with an elliptical hole in the middle. I drilled some holes in my
new "adapter plates" and bolted them to a new pair of Infinity 5x7s (about
$80). Now I have a nice pair of Inifinty speakers on Volvo mounting flanges
that fit perfectly into the rear deck housings. Once conceiving the plan,
it only took about an hour for the whole job and didn't require any
modifications to the car or the housings.
Or you could have just glued the magnets back on with epoxy.
--
Mike F.
Thornhill (near Toronto), Ont.
NOTE: new address!!
Replace tt with t (twice!) and remove parentheses to email me directly.
(But I check the newsgroup more often than this email address.)
T
Tim Hobbs
P.S. If you are a true audiophile who likes to listen to music as it was
And you'd sit in the back in the middle and have all the doors open.
'Audiophile' is an utterly meaningless concept when you are sat in one
corner of a small steel box with all the background noise of engine,
tyres, traffic etc.
I keep the 'pure' stuff for at home and let the ProLogic corrupt me
when I'm on the road. The V70 has a better system than any other car
I've heard.
--
Tim Hobbs
'58 Series 2 88" aka "Stig"
'77 101FC Ambulance aka "Burrt"
'03 Volvo V70
My Landies? http://www.seriesii.co.uk
Barcoding? http://www.bartec-systems.com
Tony Luckwill web archive at http://www.luckwill.com
intended to be heard, you wouldnt have rear speakers in your car....
And you'd sit in the back in the middle and have all the doors open.
'Audiophile' is an utterly meaningless concept when you are sat in one
corner of a small steel box with all the background noise of engine,
tyres, traffic etc.
I keep the 'pure' stuff for at home and let the ProLogic corrupt me
when I'm on the road. The V70 has a better system than any other car
I've heard.
--
Tim Hobbs
'58 Series 2 88" aka "Stig"
'77 101FC Ambulance aka "Burrt"
'03 Volvo V70
My Landies? http://www.seriesii.co.uk
Barcoding? http://www.bartec-systems.com
Tony Luckwill web archive at http://www.luckwill.com