clutch advice

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by testhdd, Jun 5, 2009.

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    testhdd Guest

    98 V70. The clutch has recently been 'howling' at me when I let it out
    under stress (accelerating quickly or starting up a hill). It sounds
    like a walrus almost, and it's pretty loud. It's had the factory
    clutch in it for 163,000 miles so I'm pretty sure that's what I need
    to replace.

    How hard is a clutch to do in this car? I was talking to a mechanic a
    while ago and I think I remember him saying it was a massive pain.
    I've done all the maintainence in this car for the past 30,000 miles
    (when I bought it from my parents) but that's only been oil, an axle,
    a ball joint, brakes, plugs, and the exhaust manifold. I'm sure if I
    get the transmission out I can take care of it, but do you think it's
    worth it just to take it to a garage?

    Thanks.
     
    testhdd, Jun 5, 2009
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    Glenn K Guest

    It is not that simple you need to lower the sub frame support the engine
    & be able to lower the engine as needed to have the gearbox drop down
    enough to clear the engine compartment all told this is approximately an
    all day job with the right tools plus once you remove the gearbox &
    remove the pressure plate & the clutch disc then you need to remove the
    flywheel to have it machined so the clutch disc has a smooth surface to
    match up with personally being a Volvo technician i would not recommend
    this job be performed unless you are very technically inclined I do not
    like to do this repair I would rather replace a window cassette on a
    early C70 before doing a clutch on a FWD car
    Glenn K
    Volvo Certified Technician 2008
    ASE Certified Technician 2008
     
    Glenn K, Jun 5, 2009
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    Randy G. Guest

    As a long time shadetree mechanic (since the late 60's) who has done a
    number of clutches and much more, if someone had to ask me if they
    should/could do a clutch on a FWD car, my immediate response would be,
    NO! It's the old adage, if you have to ask, the answer is no.

    My '90 240 is getting near the end of the clutch cable for adjustment,
    and I am assuming that the clutch's life is near its end (with 210,000
    on it) and compared to your car, I could change the clutch out in my
    car while holding a beer.

    ...I never liked fwd cars (never owned one, and hopefully never will),
    and having to change a clutch in one is fairly high on the list of
    reasons why.

    But, if you feel brave, pick up the repair manual and look through
    that process.. I think you will see why.
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    Randy & \ \/ /alerie's
    \__/olvos
    '90 245 Estate - '93 965 Estate
    "Shelby" & "Kate"
     
    Randy G., Jun 5, 2009
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    Roger Mills Guest

    In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
    I agree with others that it's not an easy DIY job.

    If it's only doing it occasionally, I'd suggest ignoring it - it's unlikely
    to be fatal.

    I had a 99 V70 (Diesel) whose clutch started gowling intermittently after
    about 40,000 miles. I kept it for another 4 years after that, and never
    changed the clutch - I just put up with the occasional growl. When I traded
    it in for a new one, the dealer didn't even notice!
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    Roger Mills, Jun 5, 2009
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    James Sweet Guest


    The one exception that I'm aware of is the classic Saab 900. FWD, with
    the easiest to replace clutch I've ever seen. The engine sits on top of
    the gearbox which has the oil pan cast into it and power is transmitted
    from the clutch to the gearbox via an enclosed chain drive so the clutch
    is right out on the front, you don't even have to remove the gearbox or
    engine.
     
    James Sweet, Jun 6, 2009
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    Randy G. Guest

    I remember sitting in a VW dealership waiting for parts. They also
    sold Saab (talk about gluttons for punishment). I was watching a
    mechanic in the shop working under the hood of a Saab, dividing his
    time fairly equally between wrenching and swearing. He called them
    "Slaabs."

    Mom had a '89 Ford Taurus. I drove it a couple of times. Hated it.
    besides having a POS motor and transmission, my opinion of FWD was
    reinforced. My theory is, when do you need the most traction? Going
    uphill on low-traction surfaces from a stop. When accelerating on such
    a surface, where does the weight transfer? To the rear wheels.

    I know that there are fans of this FWD drivetrains, but I have video
    of me driving my '90 245 RWD, a few miles in the snow including a
    fairly steep climb up my dirt and gravel, snow-covered driveway with
    no chains and standard tires. I would still be digging out that
    Taurus. Through the climb up the driveway you can hear my wife, who
    was in the passenger seat, saying, "Go Volvo!"

    __ __
    Randy & \ \/ /alerie's
    \__/olvos
    '90 245 Estate - '93 965 Estate
    "Shelby" & "Kate"
     
    Randy G., Jun 6, 2009
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    James Sweet Guest


    My ex had one that was needing some TLC when acquired, so I've spent a
    fair amount of time working on it. Funny thing is I miss that car much
    more than I ever missed her. It was the car that opened my mind from
    being completely dead set on RWD, I still love my 240, but I was very,
    very close to picking up a 900 Turbo a couple years back. It's the sort
    of thing where if you haven't spent some time driving one, you wouldn't
    know. They're different for sure, but by no means difficult to work on.
    Sounds like an incompetent mechanic more so than any fault with the car.
    One I figured out the tricks, nothing I ever did on the 900 was any
    harder than on a 240, just different. Keep in mind what I say applies
    only to the pre-'94 900 series which has a longitudinal engine. The
    later GM 900s as well as the 9000's have a more conventional transverse
    engine, those are never any fun to deal with.
     
    James Sweet, Jun 8, 2009
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