Daytime lights

[R Blaine]

I'm sure this topic has been covered here before, but can anyone tell me how
to disable the daytime running lights on a 2004 XC70, US version?

Thank you,
Rick

 

[Tony Penner]

Same with 2002 s80 english version please

 

[Jfet]

Same with 2002 s80 english version please

It is illegal to do so in Canada, but you'd probably never get a ticket for it. However,
if in an accident and the insurance company can prove that your modification attributed to
the accident, Canadian (at least Ontario) insurance companies can and will deny the claim,
or 2nd to worst, never insure you again (which means your blacklisted and can't get
insurance anywhere else or instead pay a super high premium).

To have them running isn't a big deal, very small load on the battery/alternator, and
makes you more visible to drunk oncoming traffic (yep, seen daytime drunk drivers!!!, in
Florida with those mini cans of beer in the cup holders, hehe, crazy stuff).

Cheers.

 

[Bonnet Lock]

In an earlier contribution to this discussion,

It is illegal to do so in Canada, but you'd probably never get a
ticket for it. However, if in an accident and the insurance company
can prove that your modification attributed to the accident, Canadian
(at least Ontario) insurance companies can and will deny the claim,
or 2nd to worst, never insure you again (which means your blacklisted
and can't get insurance anywhere else or instead pay a super high
premium).

This sounds very unlikely unless it is a requirement for *all* vehicles to
have daylight running lights - as it probably is in Sweden.

In UK, there is no requirement to do so, but Volvos are set up to have them
on by default. On my 1999 V70, the main lighting switch has a small screw in
one corner which can be turned to three different positions to invoke
different lighting regimes - some of which have the lights off unless
expressly switched on. The driver's handbook explains the options. I fail to
see how any insurance company could wriggle out of their obligations simply
because someone chose a perfectly legal, but non-default, option as
explained in the driver's handbook!

Not all models work in the same way for selecting lighting options. I have a
feeling that V80s and the new V70 require a code to be changed in the
on-board computer, which is not really a DIY job. Pity!

 

[Gunner]

03 XC70. I have been here before.

Faced with an option I decided not to have daylight running lights on.
Instead I have my lights on all of the time. It sure cuts down on the
preflight check list ;-)> For the comedy impaired. 1. Selt Belt 2. Turn
key 3. Go . You can leave out PoorVisiibility; Turn on lights

Please tell me why anyone with his or her mind engaged would buy a vehicle
renown for innovation in automobile safety would want to disable features
they paid for. If oncoming drivers object they can start driving on the
other side of the road!

G

 

[Bonnet Lock]

In an earlier contribution to this discussion,

Please tell me why anyone with his or her mind engaged would buy a
vehicle renown for innovation in automobile safety would want to
disable features they paid for. If oncoming drivers object they can
start driving on the other side of the road!

G

It probably makes sense in northern Scandanavia - where it is dark round the
clock for weeks on end in winter to have lights which come on automatically
with the ignition.

It makes a lot less sense in other parts of the world - but it is probably
easier and cheaper for Volvo to use the same systems worldwide. Daylight
running lights are not a legal requirement in UK and only Volvos (and maybe
Saab?) have them. Indeed, Volvo drivers are sometimes ridiculed for their
inability to turn off their lights on a bright summer's day. One comic even
did a sketch about an old Volvo being compressed into a cube of scrap metal
*still* with its light on!

There has been a lot of discussion in the past in this NG about the merits
or otherwise of daylight running lights - and it invariably polarises into
two camps. I am firmly in the camp which favours giving the individual
driver control of his lights.

[Similarly there has been a lot of discussion about one or two rear fog
lights - since Volvo only implements *one* on the basis that this is
*safer*! In my view, Volvo have very weird ideas on lighting philosophy even
though all other safety aspects of their cars are excellent].

 

[KerbKlipper]

I wish life was that simple.

Here in the UK, although bordering illegal, it is common practice to 'flash'
your lights at someone to invite them to pull out in front of you. Sadly,
the roads in Wiltshire where I live are heavily pot-holed in the Swiss
cheese style ( the only flat road surfaces are called puddles). Brilliant
though my V70 suspension is, it can't stop the car being bounced around and
hence waving the daylight running lights up and down.

After my third emergency stop in one week, I asked the dealer to turn the
dangerous life threatening things off. It's a shame because I believe
running lights to be a good thing - shame I have to go without. I drove
dim-dipped running lights for 10 years with my previous 740, and not once
did anyone mistake them for an intentional flash.

Preferably please reply to the newsgroup. If you need to write direct,
please reply to Dom131pointnewsatstapldmpointdemonpointcopointuk.
Sorry for the antispam measures, but that's modern life!

 

[G Klein]

Only the dealer can reset this for you they may charge a fee for this it
depends on the mood of the service manger

--
"*-344-*Never Forgotten"
Is for the New York City Firemen who lost their lives on September 11,2001.
The official count is 343, but there was also a volunteer who lost his life
aiding in the initial rescue efforts. And I will never forget them as long
as I live,
nor should any American.
"Mow Green"

 

[jel183\(UK\)]

On my 2002 S40 (UK) they are turned off by a combination of the turning the
light switch and turning the key - instructions were in the manual..

 

[Bob Noble]

Hi, Rick - - -

Whatever opinions folks may have on the "morality" of lights-on driving,
the operation in *all* current production Volvo's (US, anyway) is:

Computer selectable only - default is "on." Also, the current computer
configuration of all individual onboard computers is mirrored on the big
computer in the sky in Sweden - for whatever that may be worth.

Dealers charging or not is, actually, an issue. Volvo activates the
daylight lights in countries where their use is perceived to be a
safety-related issue. Most of your friendly Dealers are reluctant to
fool with a "safety related" item. In the US, we seem to believe that
any problem we encounter is somebody else's fault, so the court system
is kept busy - very busy. Figure the odds that your Dealer should be
looking at, if not you, too.

bob noble
Reno, NV, USA

 

[Chip C]

In an earlier contribution to this discussion,

Please tell me why anyone with his or her mind engaged would buy a
vehicle renown for innovation in automobile safety would want to
disable features they paid for. If oncoming drivers object they can
start driving on the other side of the road!

G

It probably makes sense in northern Scandanavia - where it is dark round the
clock for weeks on end in winter to have lights which come on automatically
with the ignition.

It makes a lot less sense in other parts of the world - but it is probably
easier and cheaper for Volvo to use the same systems worldwide. Daylight
running lights are not a legal requirement in UK and only Volvos (and maybe
Saab?) have them. Indeed, Volvo drivers are sometimes ridiculed for their
inability to turn off their lights on a bright summer's day. One comic even
did a sketch about an old Volvo being compressed into a cube of scrap metal
*still* with its light on!

There has been a lot of discussion in the past in this NG about the merits
or otherwise of daylight running lights - and it invariably polarises into
two camps. I am firmly in the camp which favours giving the individual
driver control of his lights.

[Similarly there has been a lot of discussion about one or two rear fog
lights - since Volvo only implements *one* on the basis that this is
*safer*! In my view, Volvo have very weird ideas on lighting philosophy even
though all other safety aspects of their cars are excellent].

In fact there are bright-sunlight conditions in which daytime running
lights make an oncoming car visible from a distance when an unlit car
is lost in the glare of the sun on the road. I believe Volvo is using
fairly solid research in defaulting to DRL's even where they are not
mandated (and add VW to that list, at least in the U.S.) This is not
to suggest that drivers ought not to have a choice where the law
doesn't require them.

However, I do believe that the widespread use of DRL's puts unlit
vehicles at a disadvantage, in that drivers don't look for cars any
more - they just look for headlights. DRL's have been mandated here
since 1990 and, given the very small percentage of vehicles that
survive salted roads for 14 eastern-Canadian winters, it's very rare
to see a car today without them.

(Sadly, in mandating DRLs the gov't didn't bother to specify what
colour they should be, resulting in several makers implementing them
by slightly intensifying their amber parking lights. I think this
shows a fundamental ignorance of the principles involved.)

The rear fog lights question has come up here before; as I understand
it it boils down to (a) with two fog lights on, your brake lights
would be less disctinctive, and (b) Germany mandates it that way.

Chip C
Toronto

 

[Gunner]

Thank you

But you preaching from the choir loft!

G
(Canada Safety Council - Defensive Driving Instructor)

"Bonnet Lock" <[email protected]> wrote in message

In an earlier contribution to this discussion,

Please tell me why anyone with his or her mind engaged would buy a
vehicle renown for innovation in automobile safety would want to
disable features they paid for. If oncoming drivers object they can
start driving on the other side of the road!

G

It probably makes sense in northern Scandanavia - where it is dark round the
clock for weeks on end in winter to have lights which come on automatically
with the ignition.

It makes a lot less sense in other parts of the world - but it is probably
easier and cheaper for Volvo to use the same systems worldwide. Daylight
running lights are not a legal requirement in UK and only Volvos (and maybe
Saab?) have them. Indeed, Volvo drivers are sometimes ridiculed for their
inability to turn off their lights on a bright summer's day. One comic even
did a sketch about an old Volvo being compressed into a cube of scrap metal
*still* with its light on!

There has been a lot of discussion in the past in this NG about the merits
or otherwise of daylight running lights - and it invariably polarises into
two camps. I am firmly in the camp which favours giving the individual
driver control of his lights.

[Similarly there has been a lot of discussion about one or two rear fog
lights - since Volvo only implements *one* on the basis that this is
*safer*! In my view, Volvo have very weird ideas on lighting philosophy even
though all other safety aspects of their cars are excellent].

In fact there are bright-sunlight conditions in which daytime running
lights make an oncoming car visible from a distance when an unlit car
is lost in the glare of the sun on the road. I believe Volvo is using
fairly solid research in defaulting to DRL's even where they are not
mandated (and add VW to that list, at least in the U.S.) This is not
to suggest that drivers ought not to have a choice where the law
doesn't require them.

However, I do believe that the widespread use of DRL's puts unlit
vehicles at a disadvantage, in that drivers don't look for cars any
more - they just look for headlights. DRL's have been mandated here
since 1990 and, given the very small percentage of vehicles that
survive salted roads for 14 eastern-Canadian winters, it's very rare
to see a car today without them.

(Sadly, in mandating DRLs the gov't didn't bother to specify what
colour they should be, resulting in several makers implementing them
by slightly intensifying their amber parking lights. I think this
shows a fundamental ignorance of the principles involved.)

The rear fog lights question has come up here before; as I understand
it it boils down to (a) with two fog lights on, your brake lights
would be less disctinctive, and (b) Germany mandates it that way.

Chip C
Toronto