Do the Volvo S80 and Saab 9-5 have center fuel tanks or rear fuel tanks?

Discussion in 'Volvo S80' started by The Diesel, Jun 26, 2004.

  1. The Diesel

    The Diesel Guest

    Right now the car I drive most is my dad's 2000 Lincoln Town car, and
    I just don't feel like it's a very safe car.
    For one thing it only has a 4 star rating in the EASY NHTSA front
    crash test and only a 4 star rating in the side crash test, and it
    NEVER was tested in the front offset test, but if it ever was I'm sure
    it would have gotten a marginal or poor rating.
    The Lincoln Town car also just feels like it would be very bad at
    accident avoidance because of its poor acceleration, poor braking,
    poor cornering, etc, etc.
    If that wasn't bad enough, the Lincoln Town Car has a HORRIBLE
    HORRIBLE fuel tank position in the opinion of most experts, the fuel
    tank is located BEHIND the rear axle, the same is true for the
    Mustang, Crown Victoria, and Grand Marquis(has Ford learned NOTHING
    from the Pinto?).
    I was just wondering if the Volvo S80 and the Saab 9-5(2002-2005) have
    center fuel tanks(a tank located between the rear axle and front axle)
    or if they have a rear fuel tank(a tank located behind the rear axle).
    I'm going to be getting my first car eventually and I want to make
    sure that it has a center fuel tank, and not a rear fuel tank.
     
    The Diesel, Jun 26, 2004
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  2. The Diesel

    Rob Guenther Guest

    Don't a lot of cars have rear fuel tanks? - On my old 1991 Golf, you could
    see it hanging below the car if you looked at it from the back :).

    Never heard of any problems with tank locations - do they still have the
    problem of exploding in accidents when mounted on the back? I heard the
    Pinto problem was because of a poorly positioned brakcet.
     
    Rob Guenther, Jun 26, 2004
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  3. The Diesel

    Dave Hinz Guest

    There are a million factors that are at least as important as
    specifically where the fuel tank is. Saab and Volvo don't have
    a problem with fuel tanks in collisions. And yes, the tank is much
    forward from the rear bumper than Ford has a habit of putting them.
     
    Dave Hinz, Jun 26, 2004
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  4. Off topic: I agree that the Town car is a pig of a vehicle, but I would
    have thought that the mass of the thing would have made it safer.
    Personally, I drive an '04 and love it, safety issues aside. It's a
    beautiful car.
     
    Michael Hobbs, Jun 26, 2004
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  5. The Diesel

    The Diesel Guest

    The later 2003 and later model Town Cars do have 5 star ratings in the
    NHTSA front crash test, side crash test, and rollover resistance, and
    good ratings in the IIHS front offset crash test.
    That's not the problem with the town car.
    The problem is in high speed rear accidents.
    Nothing will happen if the Town Car, Crown Victoria, or Grand Marquis
    gets hit from behind at 30mph.
    However if it gets hit from behind at 50mph, 60mph, or 70 mph, then
    the fuel tank location behind the rear axle doesn't seem like a very
    good idea.
    Check out these 3 rear crash tests done by the Police on the Crown
    Victoria.
    It's a shame that the Government doesn't do these kid of 50mph+ rear
    crash tests because they're very important in finding out how fire
    resistant a car's design is in rear crashes.
    I heard that the Government will start doing such tests in 2006
    though, so I guess it's better late than never.
    Anyway, here are the crash test videos.
    http://www.crownvictoriasafetyalert.com/new_crash_tests.html
    I've read that installing a fuel bladder inside the gas tank as well
    as installing a fireshield of fire retardant material around the gas
    tank will make Town Cars, Crown Victorias, and Grand Marquis able to
    withstand rear impacts of over 80 mph without any fuel leaking.
     
    The Diesel, Jun 27, 2004
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  6. The Diesel

    Henrik B. Guest

    *Tsk tsk*
     
    Henrik B., Jun 29, 2004
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  7. The Diesel

    Mats Guest

    All SAAB:s from the 9000 model and forward (new generation 900, 9-3
    and 9-5) has the fueltank placed in front of the rear axle, same goes
    for the S80 i belive, but for the S80 I am not sure, other Volvo
    models (940/960 series) had the tank i front of the rear axle, and I
    donĀ“t belive that they have changed that on newer models.

    /Mats
     
    Mats, Jun 30, 2004
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  8. The Diesel

    JIM Guest

    .....<cut>....

    Not sure what the 2000 LTC could do in all that stuff; however, my son has
    an '88 that took on a deer in an "offset test" and all he had to replace was
    the headlight bezel - deer didn't make it btw....wouldn't recommend trying
    that in some of these later model rigs, probably wind up with the deer in
    your lap;)

    Jim
     
    JIM, Jul 2, 2004
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  9. The Diesel

    The Diesel Guest

    It's certainly not unheard of for an older model car to do better in
    the the front and or front offset crash test than newer model of the
    same car.
    For example, in terms of a FRONT collision, I'd feel much safer in the
    beat up old 94 Town Car that just sits in the driveway and collects
    dust, than I would in the 2000 Town Car.
    Although neither car has been tested in the IIHS front offset crash
    test, you can compare the NHTSA front crash test and see that the 1994
    Town Car does much better than the 2000 Town Car in the NHTSA front
    crash test.
    http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/NCAP/Cars/891.html
    http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/NCAP/Cars/1003.html

    Newer cars more often than not are much safer in side impact crashes
    though especially when equipped with Side Airbags and have to comply
    with 1997 federal side reenforcement standards.
    I read that 52% of all fatalities in car accidents happen in side
    impact crashes even though side impacts make up only like 1/4th of all
    accidents, so I would say side impact protection is very important.
     
    The Diesel, Jul 3, 2004
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