Emissions advice for a Volvo 1988 740 GLE Non-Turbo!!

Discussion in 'Volvo 740' started by Sharshera, Feb 18, 2007.

  1. Sharshera

    Sharshera Guest

    I have a 1988 Volvo 740 GLE. I am up for emission soon.
    The car mpg is very poor in city dirving something like 15-17MPG in
    city driving or sometimes worse. But on the highway, it does 20-23MPG.

    I replaced O2 Sensor, Fuel pressure regulator, Cleaned the throttle
    body, changed Air filter, Flame Trap, Distributor rotor and cap. I
    have changed the car's AMM [from the JunkYard], the engine temperature
    sensor which sets on the engine block [again junkyard part], the
    ignition coil, the ignition wires, and the Fuel filter but all of this
    never did me any good. It seems to be just staying at this MPG. I
    think I have listed here all the parts that I have changed.

    I checked at fueleconomy.gov and found the EPA estimated MPG for my
    car and it was 20 City and 25 or 26 Highway. Definitely, I am way
    under the estimated city numbers.

    Also, my service light gets on when I start the car and stay on for 60
    seconds or so and then goes off. Since I owned the car, I was never
    able to reset that light. Does anybody know for this particular car
    year and model how to reset the service light. Also, does this
    specific car have a check engine light or not?

    I think I won't be able to do the test unless this light is off. They
    won't test the car, right?
    Does anyone have any idea or suggestion for me before going to
    emissions?

    I will probably change the spark plugs and definitely the oil. I will
    also try to use some Fuel system cleaner in the gas tank. I was once
    advised to use the Ultra i.e 93 Unleaded fuel not regular 87 when
    going to emissions. Does that really matter.

    I am in Maryland.


    Thanks very much for reading the post and for giving me any
    suggestions.

    --Hameed.
     
    Sharshera, Feb 18, 2007
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  2. I think you have the situation well in hand. The oil change is a good idea
    (dirty oil is reputed to increase HC readings). The gasoline shouldn't
    matter, but use gas with ethanol if you have a choice. You can also check
    the flame trap and the oil/air separator (where the ventilation hose from
    the flame trap connects to the crankcase) for restriction.

    The emission testers shouldn't care about the "service" light. Others here
    can tell you the low-down on resetting that. You don't have an ODBII system
    (that started in 1996, although some cars had compatible systems as early as
    1994) so there may not be a "check engine" light. My '85 doesn't have one.

    The only times my '85 has failed emissions were because of failing to hold
    pressure when they removed the gas cap and tested the tank. Both times it
    was because hoses were cracked where they attached to the tank. Those were
    accessible through a plate in the back of the station wagon (in the trunk if
    you have a sedan).

    Mike
     
    Michael Pardee, Feb 18, 2007
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  3. Sharshera

    Ed Guest

    My 1988 240 red block engine wouln't pass NOX despite doing all that
    you've mentioned, I finally got it down by plugging the vacuum line as
    described below......

    If the vacuum hose to the vacuum transducer on the side of the
    ignition
    control unit is plugged the unit is forced to go to a conventional
    advance curve. The NOx will be greatly reduced.

    On a similar note--exhaust emissions are modified in two ways via
    catalytic conversion. The first stage of conversion is the oxidation
    stage where HC and CO are oxidized to form CO2 and water. The second
    stage or reduction stage is designed to pull O off the NOx radicals to
    form N2 and O2. Volvo has done this for years with a three way
    catalyst
    built on a single monolithic honeycomb substrate inside the converter
    housing. By its design in 1978, the reduction of NOx is less than
    efficient, however it more than met the standards of the time that
    were
    primarily concerned with CO and HC emission reduction. As time passed
    the NOx component got more and more regulation attention and the
    standards tightened pushing the design to its limits. By the end of
    the
    red motor run as much tinkering with the rare earth metals plated to
    the
    substrate had reached its absolute limit. Consequently the later you
    get
    in the production run the more likely you will encounter NOx emissions
    failures during testing. The best strategy is to make sure the oil in
    the motor is fresh and the converter is good and hot (run for 30
    minutes
    or more in mixed traffic conditions) before any emissions test is run.

    Bob
    --
    The goal when driving is to miss the maximum number of objects.



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    ed


    Well then, just put something solid in the vacuum hose going to the
    vacuum capsule to stop it up, reconnect it so that it looks correct
    and
    retest. We don't use the I/M 240 test here, but the two speed dyno
    test
    for preOBDII cars like yours generate %CO, HC ppm and NOx ppm.
    Typically
    on a 240 in good operating condition you would see CO% ~0.1%, HC
    20-30
    ppm and NOx arouund 1200ppm. After changing the advance curve by
    plugging the vacuum tube thereby restricting ignition advance to
    about
    33*BTDC max, the NOx falls to 400-600ppm depending on the condition
    of
    the converter. The fail spec for NOx differs for each year here but
    hovers right around the 1100-1400ppm range. I would assume that your
    results should a similar percentage reduction in gms/mile.

    The only way to reduce NOx formation is to cool the combustion
    temperature. The two methods most commonly used are to reintroduce
    exhaust gas (EGR) or to retard the ignition timing. With the Chrysler/
    MPG
    system, as the car starts to move, first retards the timing to 5*BTDC
    and then rapidly advances the timing to a maximum of 52*BTDC and
    retards
    the timing across the board in 19* steps per engine revolution once
    the
    knock sensor "hears" a ping. Once the ping stops it advances the
    timing
    again in 2* increments per revolution until it reoccurs, then repeats
    the process. Consequently the ignition advance and combustion
    temperature remain artificially high, the motor wrings out marginal
    extra HP from the gasoline and just pukes NOx. If you were to side by
    side test a 1982 with Bosch ignition (standard advance curve) with
    your
    car the '82 with higher compression and much less efficient fuel
    injection, would have slightly higher CO and HC numbers but even with
    essentially the same converter as yours had originally would produce
    passing NOx numbers.

    Bob


    If the plug leaks then it works like the delay valve that was
    initially
    put in the line. If the engine rattled then you had either poor fuel
    delivery from the injectors or the engine was running at too high a
    temperature while the knock sensor was not sending the proper signal
    to
    the fuel control unit. Plugging the advance signal hose does nothing
    more than force the control unit to behave as it were a later EZK
    system minus the fancy individual cylinder retard control.
     
    Ed, Feb 18, 2007
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  4. Sharshera

    Mike F Guest

    Note that 740s don't have that ignition system, nor that problem.

    A 1988 740 would not have a check engine light (they started on 1989 on
    non turbos 4 cylinder, and 1990 on turbos)

    The service light is just a reminder to do oil changes, and on the 1988
    is reset by pulling a lever on the back of the speedo head, similar to
    resetting the trip mileage.

    --
    Mike F.
    Thornhill (near Toronto), Ont.

    Replace tt with t (twice!) and remove parentheses to email me directly.
    (But I check the newsgroup more often than this email address.)
     
    Mike F, Feb 21, 2007
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  5. Sharshera

    Sharshera Guest


    So, I have to take the speedo console all out i.e. unscrew it as if I
    am change some of its lamps to reset that light.

    Do you know if I get the car to a dealer to read its computer would
    that help in determining if there is any emission's problems. Can
    these problems be indicated by that service light?
     
    Sharshera, Feb 22, 2007
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  6. Sharshera

    Mike F Guest

    You can do it by reaching up from below, but I'd recommend pulling the
    cluster out the first time.

    No, there's no built in diagnostics at all on your car.
    --
    Mike F.
    Thornhill (near Toronto), Ont.

    Replace tt with t (twice!) and remove parentheses to email me directly.
    (But I check the newsgroup more often than this email address.)
     
    Mike F, Feb 23, 2007
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  7. Sharshera

    Sharshera Guest

    Thanks Mike for the tip.

    I got some hints about the Air Mass meter from allexperts.com:

    http://www.allexperts.com/user.cgi?m=6&catID=802&qID=4617109

    "If your AMM has 016 as the last three numbers in the Bosch numbers
    then you have a system that uses the check engine light and stores
    fault codes. Also most times if you turn on the key to light all the
    dash lights it should show up."

    I did changed the AMM but it seems I really inseted the wrong part. I
    have a 016 AMM where I should have had another version. Might that be
    the cause why I am having poor MPG in city driving? My last
    measurement was around 24 MPG for pure highway driving.

    One last question, what is the best Spark Plugs to use with this
    Volvo?
    Would NGK plugs be a recommended like Japanese cars?
     
    Sharshera, Feb 26, 2007
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  8. Sharshera

    Sharshera Guest

    Thanks Mike for the tip.
    Another couple of questions:

    I heard that there is an AirBox thermostat that controls the
    temperature of the Air that gets to the AMM. But I don't find it in my
    AirBox anywhere. At the JunkYard though, I did see it in some cars. Is
    my car missing it and that is what is scrowing it up or the car
    doesn't come with it?

    I found people talking about cleaning the fuel injectors at a shop/
    dealer would help. Do you think this might help?

    Also, some other talked about something called Cold Start valve. Where
    is that exactly and how can I know if it is faulty?

    --Hameed.
     
    Sharshera, Feb 26, 2007
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  9. Sharshera

    Mike F Guest

    Your air mass meter should have 007 as the last 3 digits. This looks
    identical to the ...016 air mass except there's an adjustment screw for
    the idle mixture beside the electrical connector. There are rebuilds
    that replace the cover with the number on it, so what's on an air mass
    meter may be something else entirely.

    In the air box should be 2 air intakes, and a flap that covers one or
    the other. The flap should cover the intake that connects to the hot
    air tube that goes to the intake manifold at ambient temps above 15
    Celsius.

    --
    Mike F.
    Thornhill (near Toronto), Ont.

    Replace tt with t (twice!) and remove parentheses to email me directly.
    (But I check the newsgroup more often than this email address.)
     
    Mike F, Feb 26, 2007
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  10. Sharshera

    Sharshera Guest

    Your air mass meter should have 007 as the last 3 digits. This looks
    I have a 016 AMM. I got from the junkyard. Should I try to adjust the
    the mixture using the adjustment screw.

    What is the best Spark Plugs for this Car year and model?


    Thanks again very much Mike.


    --Hameed.
     
    Sharshera, Feb 27, 2007
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  11. Sharshera

    Mike F Guest

    There's no adjustment screw on the 016, it's the wrong one for your
    car.

    I always used Bosch WR7DC (copper) on all those engines.

    --
    Mike F.
    Thornhill (near Toronto), Ont.

    Replace tt with t (twice!) and remove parentheses to email me directly.
    (But I check the newsgroup more often than this email address.)
     
    Mike F, Feb 27, 2007
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  12. Sharshera

    Sharshera Guest

    There's no adjustment screw on the 016, it's the wrong one for your
    Okay, then I am shopping for another one, I guess.
    I hope this adjusts the car's MPG.


    Thanks a million again Mike. I really really appreciate it.


    --Hameed.
     
    Sharshera, Feb 28, 2007
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