Fixed the 740...but headlights inop!

Discussion in 'Volvo 740' started by geronimo, Mar 18, 2007.

  1. geronimo

    geronimo Guest

    It didn't run *not* because it was being flooded out by too much gas.
    The mechanic who had worked on it had the camshaft set so that with
    #1 piston a TDC, the rotor was on #3 sparkplug! I reinstalled the fuel
    rail, reset the camshaft timing, and it fired right up, runs fine!
    Also I found the real cause of what he was trying to fix by
    replacing a $50 fuel pump relay.....the problem of it suddenly dying
    intermittently. I looked the fuse panel over, and the fuse in #1
    position for the fuel pump power was totally shot! It overheated
    sometime in the past...the plastic around the socket opening melted,
    the two fuse contacts were black and totally loosened. All it would
    take is a bump and the fuel pump would shut down with the fuse that
    loose. So that was an easy fix, I just broke out the bad/burned fuse
    socket and put a pigtail fuse holder in its place.

    Now the problem is that the low beam headlights do not work. The
    high beams will work if you pull the stalk backward, but they do not
    latch on, so they are only on as long as the stalk is held rearward.
    The mechanic was working on the fuse/relay panel when he replaced
    the fuel pump relay. So I think it is something he induced. I noticed
    that there is one relay base that has (I think) four wires going to
    it---identified as relay F in Haynes manual. The base is there, but
    there is no relay. But Haynes manual says it is for front fog lights
    which the car doesn't have. So hopefully the Haynes manual is right
    and that has nothing to do with the problem.

    There is a red round relay (A) which I believe is the bulb failure
    sense relay for the low beam lights. At least the Chilton 90-98 manual
    shows only the low beam lights powered through it. So this is a
    possible cause I guess. The Haynes manual says that relay K on the
    front row is the central locking/main lighting relay.....maybe it is
    feeding low beam power ? Unfortunately I don't have either relay.
    Advice?
     
    geronimo, Mar 18, 2007
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  2. geronimo

    James Sweet Guest


    Wow, I would not let that mechanic anywhere near my car again if I were
    you, he missed checking some of the most obvious things, wasted time
    doing other things, and then failed to align the camshaft correctly when
    putting it back together. It takes a special kind of incompetence to do
    that.

    The red can is the bulb failure sensor, you could pop the cover and see
    how the soldering on the circuit boards looks. Fuel pump relays can
    easily be fixed this same way.
     
    James Sweet, Mar 18, 2007
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  3. geronimo

    geronimo Guest

    James:


    Also, to make matters even worse, when it went into this mechanics
    shop it had a working radio, a very nice one. When I got car to my
    house, the plug-in front had disappeared. Are replacement front
    panels hard to get? The mechanic is asking what brand of radio it is
    as he has a few panels in his office. But....the brand name was on the
    front panel! Now I have to figure out how to get the radio itself
    pulled out so I can look for model/ p/n. Don't have a clue. There must
    be some sort of fasteners or clips accessible from the bottom...while
    I have the fuse/relay panel out to fix headlights.


    THe other issue perhaps you can help with is that I found a
    two-contact connector right ckose to the block under intake manifold
    just dangling! It comes out of a harness that passes by IAC
    control valve, going on towards the block, and I think this same
    harness goes to the two temp sensors under the intake manifold. There
    isn't a code for knock sensor being set, but I think this engine is
    supposed to have one....but I don't find a sensor underneath the
    intake manifold that is not plugged in. From the Chilton manual, it
    is positioned about in the area where the knock sensor should be, but
    I've never seen it. I think it mounts with one large bolt.

    Thanks, Geronimo
     
    geronimo, Mar 18, 2007
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  4. geronimo

    geronimo Guest

    Nope its not knock sensor connector, looked at it again in good
    daylight, and knock sensor is there, and has a connector on it. So I
    don't know what the disconnected connector could be for.
     
    geronimo, Mar 18, 2007
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  5. geronimo

    Randy G. Guest

    iirc, mine has such a disconnected socket as well. Could be a
    multi-model harness with an unused connector for your car.

    I would make a complaint with the BBB, auto service bureau or such
    about that mechanic. He should have been able to HEAR that the timing
    was off as soon as you pulled it in. And now the radio front is
    missing and he just HAPPENS to have extras in his office!?!?!?

    Use an ohm meter and check to see if the switch is sending voltage to
    the headlights and then trace the problem from there. maybe the
    mechanic switched your headlight bulbs- check to see that the are good
    and connected before driving yourself crazy! AGAIN!!

    ;-)
    __ __
    Randy & \ \/ /alerie's
    \__/olvos
    '90 245 Estate - '93 965 Estate
    "Shelby" & "Kate"
     
    Randy G., Mar 18, 2007
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  6. geronimo

    James Sweet Guest

    Is this an aftermarket radio? Usually they come with some special
    release tools to remove it from the sleeve. Without those, getting it
    out will be difficult.

    That does sound like it could be the knock sensor wire. The sensor is a
    round puck that should be bolted to the block in that general area.
     
    James Sweet, Mar 18, 2007
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  7. geronimo

    geronimo Guest

    I think it is an aftermarket radio, but it fits in the dash like OEM.
    Felt around underneath the radio, but couldn't see how to release it,
    so I am just hosed as far as radio.

    I looked underneath intake manifold in better light and the knock
    sensor is there. Randy G. says he also has an unused similar connector
    on his 740, so I guess it is not supposed to be connected, its just
    unused.

    I swapped J and K 4-terminal relays, and then the headlights
    worked, so I have a bad main power relay. Simple fix.
    Now all I have to do is replace smashed RH turn/ marker lens, get a
    set of new tires, fix A/C and its good to go for another 100K. ;-)

    Thanks, Geronimo
     
    geronimo, Mar 19, 2007
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  8. geronimo

    James Sweet Guest


    Well you can remove the whole assembly to get to it that way, I forget
    how I did that now, does anyone know if this car has the same style
    radio cubby as my '87?
     
    James Sweet, Mar 19, 2007
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  9. geronimo

    geronimo Guest

    James: well the radio is a small issue. The speedometer doesn't
    work, the sender in the differential probably is shot. For some
    months it was intmt before dying altogether. I did check the
    connector to it and it was OK, no broken wires. This is a $90 part
    new from RockAuto.com.... A bit steep, so you wouldn't have saved that
    from the Volvo you parted out, did you? The local junkyards never seem
    to have 740 parts....I wonder if the 92 240s (if there was a 240 that
    year) and the 940s used the same sender? Thanks, Geronimo
     
    geronimo, Mar 19, 2007
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  10. geronimo

    geronimo Guest

    Actually I might be barking up wrong tree entirely on the speedo
    sensor. Driving it around today I noticed that the odometer is still
    working. I would think that pulses from the same sender in
    differential are driving the odometer also, so if it still works, it
    would have to be the speedometer itself that has stopped working.
    Right?
     
    geronimo, Mar 19, 2007
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  11. geronimo

    Roadie Guest

    Wow...given the string of disasters that guy has caused I wouldn't let
    him within 100 feet of the car. You may want to look into having an
    independent evaluation done and consider bring suit!

    For electrical issues I would get a copy of the Volvo manual for your
    car.
     
    Roadie, Mar 19, 2007
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  12. geronimo

    James Sweet Guest


    I've never seen or heard of one of those senders failing in a Volvo,
    *ever*. In theory it could happen, but that would be the absolute last
    place I looked. Start by checking the fuse for the instruments, then
    look at the speedo itself and the wire to the sender.
     
    James Sweet, Mar 20, 2007
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  13. geronimo

    James Sweet Guest


    Bingo, you've got a problem in the speedo itself, solder joints on these
    are notorious for being bad.
     
    James Sweet, Mar 20, 2007
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  14. geronimo

    geronimo Guest

    Concerning the speedo sender: I think I am barking up the wrong tree
    ---on second thought---- as I noticed today that the odometer is still
    running, just the speedometer needle is always showing zero now. I am
    thinking there is only one signal drving both odometer and
    speedometer....is that right?
     
    geronimo, Mar 20, 2007
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  15. geronimo

    geronimo Guest

    I found an entire 92 740 turbo inst cluster for $37.00 on
    eBay....maybe it will fix the turbo boost and temp gauge as well!

    Thanks, geronimo
     
    geronimo, Mar 20, 2007
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  16. geronimo

    geronimo Guest

    The other question I have is what do you do when the little ball-joint
    plastic mount/support ends break that hold the headlight assemblies?

    For now I have two bungees installed on the healdlamp sockets so that
    the headlights aren't completely loose, but of course they cannot be
    adjusted normally.
     
    geronimo, Mar 20, 2007
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  17. geronimo

    James Sweet Guest


    The turbo boost guage is mechanical, if it isn't working the hose popped
    off or split somewhere.
     
    James Sweet, Mar 20, 2007
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  18. geronimo

    James Sweet Guest


    You replace the broken parts...
     
    James Sweet, Mar 20, 2007
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  19. geronimo

    geronimo Guest

    Yea, I kinda thought that much myself ;-)

    I guess what I was getting at is if the headlight mounts can be
    obtained from some supplier, or if that is something that has to be
    scrounged from a salvage yard. On the other hand, bungee cords are
    cheap and will probably last 50K miles ;-) I can also tell someone
    truthfully that the old car is being held together with rubber bands
    ;-)
     
    geronimo, Mar 20, 2007
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  20. geronimo

    James Sweet Guest


    Dunno, I'd start by calling the parts dept of a local dealer to find out.
     
    James Sweet, Mar 21, 2007
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