Fuel saving devices - do they do ANYTHING?

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by (Just) Allan, Oct 29, 2005.

  1. (Just) Allan

    (Just) Allan Guest

    Just wondering if anyone here has tried fitting fuel saving devices to
    their car (magnetic clamp onto the fuel line, fan blades inserted into
    the air intake, etc.) and if these actually did anything for fuel
    economy - or not.

    Thanks for reading...

    Allan.
     
    (Just) Allan, Oct 29, 2005
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    Randy G. Guest

    My 240 had one of these on it when I bought it. Took it off
    immediately. A recidivous concept. At least real snake oil gets you
    drunk!

    I put these in the same class as deer whistles.


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    '90 245 Estate - '93 965 Estate
    "Shelby" & "Kate"
     
    Randy G., Oct 29, 2005
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  3. fuel savings stratagy >>

    cut back on driving......i
    can see imediate results....
     
    ~^ beancounter ~^, Oct 29, 2005
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  4. (Just) Allan

    James Sweet Guest


    They're 100% pure bullshit, they are guaranteed to work at emptying your
    wallet though.
     
    James Sweet, Oct 29, 2005
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    Perry Noid Guest

    probably the best fuel-saving device is a good tire pressure gauge... use it
    regularly to keep the pressure up, and that will help reduce fuel use as
    well as prolong the life of the tires! I keep my 240 around 36PSI, which is
    a bit higher than the figure posted on the car, but I like the firm ride and
    tight steering.

    Especially important to check the pressure during the spring and fall, when
    temperature is changing almost daily!
     
    Perry Noid, Oct 29, 2005
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    Jack G Guest

    They do great for the seller - transferring $ from your pocket to theirs.
    Other than that, nothing.

    Jack G.
     
    Jack G, Oct 29, 2005
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    John Horner Guest

    None of 'em work. Consumer Reports recently did a test of a number of
    popular types. Most did nothing, some did harm.

    I've been a car nut for 35 years now and have seen the magic spark
    plugs, magic air filters, magic magnets and such and they are all B.S.

    John
     
    John Horner, Oct 29, 2005
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  8. Randy G. wrote:
    (...)

    The larger animal warning whistles do work. I've used them for years,
    and for the decade or so I was coming home at 4:00am (a peak time for
    deer and other animal activity), they turned lots of critters away from
    my path. Sometimes they would spook them out into the road, but it was
    always well ahead of me - I never had to lock the wheels, or even brake
    hard. A big improvement over having deer run out 10 feet in front of
    you,
    in either case. They are useless in the case of amphibians, though.
    --







    http://freevision.org/michael/index.html
     
    Michael Cerkowski, Oct 29, 2005
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  9. (Just) Allan

    (Just) Allan Guest

    We have a 1978 244 - I *think* the tyres are supposed to be 32 PSI
    according to a label on the car. I can't stand it at that pressure -
    the steering is so HEAVY. I recently put 40 in, but the tyres were
    hot at the time, so yep, about 36 is usual for us too.
     
    (Just) Allan, Oct 29, 2005
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  10. (Just) Allan

    (Just) Allan Guest

    Wow. I didn't think the magnetic ones would do anything from my
    electronics training (petrol not magnetic - duh). But I thought the
    air ones would get some positives. Unless I didn't describe it
    correctly... See here for one type:
    http://www.hiclone.com.au/whatis.htm shocking picture I know, but I'm
    sure folks get the idea... You're supposed to insert it into the air
    intake between the air filter and the engine and it's supposed to
    turbulate the air creating a more even burn mix.

    Still no? {sigh}

    As for the guy who said to drive less... We already walk as much as
    possible - I'd love to fit a steam engine in the 244... I've been
    dreaming of that for years before fuel skyrocketed!

    Allan.
     
    (Just) Allan, Oct 29, 2005
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    Robert Polk Guest

    I saw this thing on ebay...it essentially wraps the fuel line around the
    radiator hose, warming up the fuel before getting the the engine. As an
    backyard engineer, this seems to make more sense than the other nonsense
    I've seen.

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Fuel...yZ111115QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

    But the again, I've also tried the magnet on the fuel line thing back in the
    80s (and yeah, it didn't work).
     
    Robert Polk, Oct 29, 2005
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  12. Deer whistles were a hot topic in our department a year or two ago. We never
    reached any sort of resolution - we could use them if we wanted or not. The
    "antis" pointed out that the frequency is so high (1/4 wavelength is way
    less than the deer's ear spacing) it is impossible to tell which way the
    sound is coming from, and that deer have no way of deciding what (if
    anything) to do. Your experience is the most positive thing I've heard.

    Mike
     
    Michael Pardee, Oct 29, 2005
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  13. No. The throttle plate will nullify any swirl appearing before it and will
    introduce many times more turbulence of its own, and the valves will nullify
    the throttle plate turbulence while introducing their own flow pattern.

    Engine manufacturers began engineering intake flow beginning with the Honda
    CVCC engine in the early 70s. Any change is going to be for the worse.

    Mike
     
    Michael Pardee, Oct 29, 2005
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    Gary Heston Guest

    [ ... ]

    Until you consider that warming the fuel reduces the density of the charge
    going into the combustion chamber, therefore reducing the energy obtained
    when it burns. That's why you see lots of cold air induction systems made
    for cars; things only need to be warm during starting in low ambient
    temperatures.

    Similarly, the devices that induce turbulence to "help mix the fuel" are a
    joke; engineers spend thousands of hours getting rid of turbulence in the
    intake. The smoother the air flows, the more of it gets into the chamber,
    the more power you get--unless you have that fuel heater gadget installed.


    Gary
     
    Gary Heston, Oct 29, 2005
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    Marvin Guest

    Magnets on the fuel line do absolutely nothing. All little boys think magnets are
    magical. Some adults still believe it.
     
    Marvin, Oct 29, 2005
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    John Horner Guest

    Yep, still no.

    Think about it. Auto manufacturers spend a fortune to meet fuel economy
    regulations and maximize power. Any simple cheap ways of doing so are
    already being done.

    John
     
    John Horner, Oct 29, 2005
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    Randy G. Guest

    There was a study that showed that the "whistles" create sounds that
    are beyond the hearing range of the animals they are supposd to be
    effective on. How that is supposed to work is beyond me.

    Read here:
    Hearing Sensitivity in White-tailed Deer
    Ken Risenhoover, Jon Hunter, Roy Jacobson, and Glenn Stout
    http://lutra.tamu.edu/klr/hearing.htm





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    "Shelby" & "Kate"
     
    Randy G., Oct 29, 2005
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    James Sweet Guest


    Don't you think the automakers would have installed them from the
    factory if it was that simple to improve economy?
     
    James Sweet, Oct 29, 2005
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    m-gineering Guest

    all fuel gadgets work, and some better than others. The trick is not to
    install them per the manufacturers instructions, but under the throtle
    pedal limiting movement
    --
     
    m-gineering, Oct 29, 2005
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    Randy G. Guest

    That's exactly the opposite of what you would want. The ideal
    situation would be to chill the air, chill the gas, and add a bit of
    humidity to the intoake air. vr wonder why the car seems to run so
    well on cool, damp days? Denser air, denser ful, and greater expansion
    in the combiustion process.





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    '90 245 Estate - '93 965 Estate
    "Shelby" & "Kate"
     
    Randy G., Oct 29, 2005
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