Got my '81 240 going!!

Discussion in 'Volvo 240' started by KHanawalt, May 9, 2004.

  1. KHanawalt

    KHanawalt Guest

    Okay, I brought this 245DL home last weekend, it wouldn't run. Owner said it
    had an intermittent problem, but it wasn't intermittent for me. Wouldn't
    start. Until I pulled an injector, and tried the starter, and it sprayed.
    Reinstalled injector, and it started on one cylinder, and would eventually rev
    but only fire on cylinder #1. Checked #2 plug, dry as a bone but had spark and
    compression.

    So today, before I went looking for fuel pumps, I pulled #2 injector, and tried
    starter. Presto, it sprayed. reinstalled it, now it runs on two cylinders.
    What the....? So I pulled #3 and #4 and ran the starter and they sprayed.
    Reinstalled them, and now it runs like the day it came off the production line
    even with 280K.

    Explanation? I don't know for sure, but here's a theory: There was some air
    in the injector lines, and was at the highest point just above each injector.
    Since air has give unlike liquids, it didn't create the hydraulic pressure
    necessary to spray through the injector. When I removed the injectors, the
    highest point was then the end of the injector, and the fuel pushed the air
    out. I don't think I buy this completely, but I put 25 miles on it today
    without a hiccup.

    Any other ideas?
    KennyH

    Horsepower is cheaper than therapy.
     
    KHanawalt, May 9, 2004
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  2. KHanawalt

    Randy G. Guest

    There was a curse on the car and by opening the cylinders to the light
    of day the curse was lifted.....?

    You didn't, by chance, make the sign of the cross when the injector
    was removed, did you...?

    I am thinking, on the serious side, that the problem was not with the
    injectors themselves, but with some part of the wiring harness that
    you disturbed when doing the removal- like the connectors on the
    injectors themselves perchance? There are some years of Volvos that
    have wiring problems, could this be related to that?

    from Randy & Valerie
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    Randy G., May 10, 2004
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  3. KHanawalt

    KHanawalt Guest

    I am thinking, on the serious side, that the problem was not with the
    Funny guy, you are. Well, this has the mechanical CIS so the injectors don't
    have connectors. Oddly, only the ones that had been removed functioned, first
    #1, then #1 & #2, then I removed #3 and #4 together, and presto.

    Now I have another problem:

    I drove it Sat 30 miles or so, and Sunday I started it a couple of times, moved
    it once. Now the pumps won't run, as is the case if there's no ignition
    signal. I put my timing light on it, and there is no spark coming from the
    coil.

    I washed it Sat. a.m. and it wouldn't start until I removed the distributor cap
    and dried things out a little, but then it ran for the next two days. I don't
    get it.

    This new problem could be part of the bad wiring problem, I suppose, but
    previously I only had fuel delivery problems. Go figure.
    KennyH

    Horsepower is cheaper than therapy.
     
    KHanawalt, May 11, 2004
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  4. KHanawalt

    Mike F Guest

    The fuel pump relay only turns on when it sees the same pulsing signal
    that's also fed to the tachometer. So if you have no ignition primary,
    the fuel pumps won't run. Cleaning the dist cap wouldn't have had any
    effect on your problem then. You don't say if you checked the low
    tension side of the ignition. Also there's 2 different ignitions, one
    bought from Chrysler!, one from Bosch. The Chrysler one has the
    computer mounted on the windshield washer reservoir bottle bracket.

    --
    Mike F.
    Thornhill (near Toronto), Ont.

    NOTE: new address!!
    Replace tt with t (twice!) and remove parentheses to email me directly.
    (But I check the newsgroup more often than this email address.)
     
    Mike F, May 11, 2004
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  5. KHanawalt

    Randy G. Guest

    Somehow, when I typed that, I KNEW the car was mechanical FI... I'll
    stick to the voodoo answers, then.. ;-)
    from Randy & Valerie
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    \ \/ /
    \__/olvo
    1993 960
     
    Randy G., May 13, 2004
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  6. KHanawalt

    KHanawalt Guest

    I'll
    We all need a little entertainment. BTW, it failed the emissions test
    yesterday a.m. CO limit is 1.50 PPM, and I was at 1.94 at idle.

    So after perusing www.brickboard.com, I used my 3mm allen wrench to lean it out
    as far as I could with it still idling smoothly, I had to increase the idle
    speed with the knob.

    Presto! It passed with flying colors. Now the CO is .54. Big difference.
    Thanks for the advice with my other problem!
    KennyH

    Horsepower is cheaper than therapy.
     
    KHanawalt, May 13, 2004
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