Manual trans. on new V70 a rarity?

Discussion in 'Volvo V70' started by John Scarpulla, Feb 11, 2004.

  1. My wife and I are interested in buying a ndw 2004 V70 volvo wagon with
    a manual transmission in southern california. So far two dealers have
    told us that "ther ain't no such thing" and that the care would have to
    be ordered special. How come volvo doesnt make this car with the
    manuall trannsmission? We like the 2.4 L engine with no turbo, but the
    2.5L with turbo would have been ok too. Just can't get them. Are
    these dealers BS-ing me? they say that los angeles volvo drivers don't
    buy manual transmissions. sounds like baloney to me.

    thanks1

    John
     
    John Scarpulla, Feb 11, 2004
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    James Sweet Guest


    In the US Volvos with manual transmissions have been very few and far
    between since the late 80's, it sucks, but the majority of the population
    seems to want an automatic, I can't even think of an even somewhat upscale
    domestic car that's even available with a manual. I always find it strange
    how car dealers advertise an automatic transmission like it's some sort of
    great feature, can't stand the things myself, they're everywhere though, not
    exactly a rare option.
     
    James Sweet, Feb 11, 2004
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    Bonnet Lock Guest

    In an earlier contribution to this discussion,

    There's no problem in getting a V70 with manual transmission in Europe - so
    Volvo *does* make them. It's obviously a marketing thing whereby US
    customers - rightly or wrongly - are deemed to be incapable of coping with a
    clutch pedal and manual gearchange - possibly in the same way that they're
    incapable of coping with a manual staircase when there is a lift (elevator)
    anywhere in sight.
     
    Bonnet Lock, Feb 11, 2004
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    Mike F Guest

    I think what they're trying to say is that nobody keeps one with a
    manual transmission in their new car stock, that the car would have to
    be special ordered. It certainly shows the manual transmission as
    standard equipment on the US Volvo website. I don't know if the manual
    transmission is better now than it was back in '98 when I bought my V70
    - I thought that the automatic was better, and so bought my first car
    with an automatic. I wanted one with the cloth seats - even though
    leather was an option, every stock car had it. So I had to special
    order my car to get it that way, which is what you'll have to do.

    --
    Mike F.
    Thornhill (near Toronto), Ont.

    NOTE: new address!!
    Replace tt with t (twice!) and remove parentheses to email me directly.
    (But I check the newsgroup more often than this email address.)
     
    Mike F, Feb 11, 2004
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  5. Volvo sends the dealers what they think will sell best. Anything else
    is special order. If you really want the car you can special order it.
    No problem. If you want to save money, you can get the exact car you
    want through European Delivery and save more money that what the trip
    costs. In fact the last couple times I used European Delivery, they
    paid for my airfare and hotel, customs fees, home delivery and I still
    saved about 10% on the price. Also, I got exactly what I wanted: no
    leather, no sun roof, and no option other than shiftronic and the winter
    package.

    If you are serious about a manual transmission, try the shiftronic. I
    love it. When I am accellerating, the automatic mode is better than a
    manual. When I am decellerating or descending, the manual mode is
    better.
     
    Stephen M. Henning, Feb 11, 2004
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    kmy Guest

    : My wife and I are interested in buying a ndw 2004 V70 volvo wagon with
    : a manual transmission in southern california. So far two dealers have
    : told us that "ther ain't no such thing" and that the care would have to
    : be ordered special. How come volvo doesnt make this car with the
    : manuall trannsmission? We like the 2.4 L engine with no turbo, but the
    : 2.5L with turbo would have been ok too. Just can't get them. Are
    : these dealers BS-ing me? they say that los angeles volvo drivers don't
    : buy manual transmissions. sounds like baloney to me.

    : thanks1

    : John

    Not to knock your desire for a manual, but the constant shifting in stop
    and go traffic gets old fast.
     
    kmy, Feb 11, 2004
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    James Sweet Guest

    I'm sure it's not his first car with a manual, not all of us have to deal
    with stop and go regularly, and when I do there's rarely a need to shift,
    just idle along in 1st and hit the clutch when I get too close to the car in
    front.
     
    James Sweet, Feb 11, 2004
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    Rob Guenther Guest

    They have a V70 2.4L at the dealer I go to with a 5 speed stick. I don't
    think the 2.5T can be had with a manual tho.

    They are not really common tho... I know someone who was looking for a used
    V70, had to have cloth interior, manual shift, no turbo, and it had to be
    red/burgundy..... He ended up buying some other car, a minivan I think (yea
    i'm confused too....)
     
    Rob Guenther, Feb 12, 2004
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    Rob Guenther Guest

    The leather and automatic thing.... when they come "standard", essentially
    even tho they are optional... This is an excellent bargaining tool... We've
    gotten quite a few "free" options this way.
     
    Rob Guenther, Feb 12, 2004
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    Rob Guenther Guest

    Yes, I totally agree with this. There are just certain places in the world
    where a manual tranny SUCKS.... The Greater Toronto Area being one of
    them.... Tho I think my left leg is now stronger then my right leg, but the
    autobox makes it so much nicer, especially in the mornings when most people
    just have to have their coffee's in the car (I try to avoid this as much as
    possible, wait till I get to work).
     
    Rob Guenther, Feb 12, 2004
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    briankeys Guest

    So, there is an additional cost to have a dealer custom order the car the
    way I want it, instead of picking any old slag from the lot?

    How much are we talking about here?
     
    briankeys, Feb 12, 2004
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    Mike F Guest

    The only problem is the wait. The may find one somewhere if they're
    smart enough to know you're serious, or it may have to be build
    specially for you.

    --
    Mike F.
    Thornhill (near Toronto), Ont.

    NOTE: new address!!
    Replace tt with t (twice!) and remove parentheses to email me directly.
    (But I check the newsgroup more often than this email address.)
     
    Mike F, Feb 12, 2004
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  13. No. In fact in some areas there is a premium for picking up a car off
    the lot since there is no time in the penalty box like there is with a
    special order. By the same token, there are usually no discounts on
    special orders either. Sometimes there are discounts on cars on the lot
    if the dealer isn't moving his inventory.
     
    Stephen M. Henning, Feb 12, 2004
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    Rob Guenther Guest

    Should be able to knock the price down thru bargaining just because you have
    to wait.... But that's just my logic.
     
    Rob Guenther, Feb 13, 2004
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  15. The dealer will say that you elected to wait. He will also require a
    downpayment.
     
    Stephen M. Henning, Feb 13, 2004
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    Rob Guenther Guest

    Exactly, that's why I said through my own logic.... If you are good at
    bargaining tho, many things can be accomplished.
     
    Rob Guenther, Feb 13, 2004
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    Guest Guest

    Hmmm - the manual transmission is supposed to be the default state with the
    auto extra on the plain Jane V70 for 2004. We just bought a 2.5T V70 which
    has the auto by default (we got the geartronic auto - works well). In
    looking at several we saw 5 V70s with manual. I'm sure you can find one if
    you look.

    All that having been said - the geartonic is a great option - you shift it
    just like a motorcycle - no clutch. This 2.5T scoots like a frightened cat.

    If you can pay the price you should drive both before deciding.

    Bill
     
    Guest, Feb 14, 2004
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